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We are here at the Job Creators Network Freedom Fighters Summit.

We actually, I'm here with U.S. representatives, Beth Van Dune, and Rich McCormick,

Rich and I just got off of a panel that was a little bit of a feisty panel together,

but we were talking about debt, so it shouldn't be feisty, right?

I love a good debate.

It wasn't even really debate.

It was just different opinions on the same thing.

We all essentially agree with each other, but the variety of opinions.

I love how people who came from different angles. I love the way it was hosted from kind of a devil's advocate position.

It made it fun.

But you said something that was scary.

You said, we are going to lose the midterms.

So I'm giving you a chance to say you don't think we are.

Well, I hope we'd both.

If we do things, I think this game of chicken that President Trump's paying on tariffs,

I think he's going to pay out.

I think he's brilliant.

Who has the guts to do that?

He's a bold president.

Yeah.

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