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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Trump Scheme to Rig the Census with Dale Ho

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In many cases the Trump Administration isn’t shy when it comes to undermining the Constitution of the United States. But while fights over things like the Muslim ban or ending birthright citizenship play out in public, there are other massive Constitutional erosions happening under the radar. This is the story of how Wilbur Ross and the Trump Administration went about trying to change the way people in America are counted and how they got caught lying about it. Dale Ho is the director of the Voting Rights Project for the ACLU. He caught the Trump Administration in a big lie about the way it intends to execute the 2020 census. Listen to Dale Ho describe what they found, why they’re suing, and why the results of his case could change the way Democracy in America functions. Email us at [email protected] Tweet using #WITHpod Read more at nbcnews.com/whyisthishappening

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0:00.0

The bitter taste in my mouth all day, all the time, and covering this administration is the bad faith in the line.

0:07.0

You can say, like, we forthrightly, like, here are our reasons that we think it's wrong to be counting non-citizens for purposes of representation in federal funds.

0:18.0

Citizenship is an incredibly important thing, and we have gotten two lacks about the division between citizens and non-citizens, and we have a...

0:26.0

You can make that argue.

0:27.0

Let's have a argument.

0:28.0

Let's have a policy of how you can make about it.

0:30.0

But that's never the way they do it.

0:33.0

On anything, it's always bad faith.

0:35.0

It's always this stupid trick play.

0:39.0

It's like someone shows up like the three toddlers inside a, you know, trench code.

0:43.0

Hello, and welcome to Wise Is Happening with me, your host, Chris Hays.

0:50.0

I'm special day here. I Tiffany Champion is not in the room, but Matt Toater and Senior Producer Brennan O'Millius right here.

0:58.0

He's this bumping.

1:00.0

I like to think of podcasting as a visual medium, so I'll just describe what he's doing.

1:07.0

All right, so check it out.

1:10.0

Today's a great episode with a kind of mind-blowing set of facts and a story that is one of these stories...

1:17.0

I do this professionally, and I have to say, even as someone who comes to work every day and thinks about the news,

1:23.0

there's these stories that are constantly sort of like rushing past the very periphery,

1:29.0

and occasionally something happens, and I'm like, what the hell is going on with that story?

1:34.0

But then there's like a bazillion things to keep on top of, and we don't do it on the show,

1:38.0

and maybe then another week goes by, and something rushes past a headline, and I read the article,

1:43.0

I'm like, oh my god, and then it goes out of my mind.

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