The true meaning of a 'No Deal Brexit'

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Paul Adamson

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🗓️ 17 June 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Jean-Claude Piris, head of the EU Council of Minister's Legal Service for 23 years, talks to Paul Adamson about the real meaning of a 'No Deal Brexit' and the prospects of an agreement between the UK and the EU27 under a new British premiership.

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0:00.0	Welcome to In Conversation, the regular podcast of E-Sharp magazine. Go to e-sharp.E.S.S.U. for full access to all our podcast to date. This is Paul Adamson, and I'm in conversation with Jean-Cloop Berris. Jean-CBerris ran the legal service of the European Union's councillor for 23 years
0:23.4	and is still regarded as a guru on everything to do with matters legal and treaties of the European Union.
0:30.6	Jean-Cloid, my first question to you, if I may, is what is your prediction at the moment?
0:34.9	This is the end of June, mid-June.
0:36.3	What is the likelihood of the European Union agreeing to a deal with the UK before the end of October?
0:44.3	Good morning, Paul. In fact, I have not really a prognostic.
0:51.3	I think that everything can happen, especially because you have now in the
0:59.3	UK this process about appointing the next leader of the Tories, who would be the prime minister.
1:06.4	And you can observe that during this electoral campaign, most candidates are talking about
1:17.6	unicorns again. They are saying that they will be elected to become prime minister, go back to Brussels, we open the negotiation and have a best deal,
1:31.2	no backstop or backstop modified and so on. All this is not possible. The EU has said and repeated,
1:39.1	and the UK has signed, by the way, the progression until the 31st of October saying we will not reopen the
1:49.4	the W.A., the withdrawal agreement. We will not reopen. And I think this is absolutely settled.
1:57.6	It can be a lot of changes to the political declaration, which is annexed to this agreement,
2:04.0	which is not a legally binding document, and the European Union is, as from the beginning,
2:10.7	open to the wishes of the United Kingdom for the future of the relations between the EU and the UK. And the future relations are
2:20.8	described as possible for the future in this political declaration. That's open.
2:29.1	Well, you mentioned the Conservative Party leadership contest at the moment. And of course,
2:33.8	a lot of rhetoric at the moment,
2:35.2	because of the hustings, I suppose, amongst the candidates, with the exception of Rory Stewart,
2:39.7	that no deal with reluctance might be an option amongst others. Everybody wants to try and get a deal
2:46.8	before the end of October. They're saying these candidates candidates but if we have to leave without a deal
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