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The Trojan Horse Affair - Part 2

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🗓️ 18 March 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Hamza and Brian think the source of the Trojan Horse letter might be hiding in plain sight. After learning about the petty personnel dispute that probably gave rise to the letter, they’re even more bewildered about how it ever could have been taken seriously.

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0:00.0

Hamza and I are sitting behind two children's school desks.

0:05.8

We're in the covert classroom at the front of Tahira Lam's house talking about the Trojan

0:10.7

horse letter, those four pages that painted to here as the ringleader of an extremist

0:15.3

plot.

0:16.7

To here, clearly have strong suspicions about who wrote it.

0:20.1

The motif was quite an interesting one.

0:25.0

Even though the plot wasn't real, the Trojan horse letter still prompted authorities to

0:28.6

investigate and ultimately dismantle the education movement to hear who was leading.

0:33.5

A successful movement, outcomes for Muslim students, had improved dramatically.

0:38.0

The national government also beefed up counter extremism policy and tried to prevent to hear

0:42.2

and as colleagues from ever working or volunteering in schools again, all in the aftermath of

0:46.9

the letter.

0:48.8

To here believes if they'd ever bothered just to investigate who wrote the thing, it

0:52.5

would have been very difficult for the government to justify its actions.

0:56.6

As he says, it would have been obvious, the letter had nothing to do with a conspiracy

1:01.0

or with him.

1:02.8

He sparsened details with us this first day, but he does give us that tantalizing hint

1:08.6

that the letter came from someone close to him.

1:11.7

But whoever wrote the letter, they knew, they knew me, I think.

1:19.8

Or possibly more than one person.

1:22.1

Were they from Birmingham?

1:23.7

Were they involved in it?

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