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Overheard at National Geographic

The Triumph and Tragedy of Indian Independence

Overheard at National Geographic

National Geographic

Science, Society & Culture

4.510.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

When India and Pakistan gained their independence from Britain, a border was drawn between the two new countries. The split started a chain reaction of violence that led to one of the largest forced migrations in human history. More than 1 million people died in the tragedy. Both countries are now approaching 75 years of independence, and the people who were there to remember it are reaching their twilight years. This may be our last chance to hear directly from the eyewitnesses who lived through the victory of independence and the subsequent tragedy of partition. National Geographic Explorer Sparsh Ahuja has been documenting the stories of people who were forced from their homes during partition and is bringing them back to their ancestral home—if not in person then through virtual reality. For more information on this episode, visit natgeo.com/overheard. Want more? To learn more about Sparsh Ahuja’s work and to hear more interviews with survivors of partition, take a look at the website for Project Dastaan. The end of British colonial rule birthed two sovereign nations—but hastily drawn borders caused simmering tensions to boil over. Read about how 75 years later, memories of partition still haunt survivors, and see on a map where those borders were drawn. Also explore: India struggled under British rule for more than 200 years, not always peacefully. Read about India’s first war of independence and the Indian rani (queen) at the center of it all. You’ve probably heard of Mahatma Gandhi, the nonviolent leader of the Indian independence movement, but how much do you know about him? We’ve put together an explainer about his life and ideas. If you like what you hear and want to support more content like this, please consider a National Geographic subscription. Go to natgeo.com/exploremore to subscribe today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

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0:12.0

So I'd like you to start out by telling me your name and your relationship to me.

0:18.4

My name is Lata Roy Chattagee and I'm your stepmother.

0:24.8

And tell us how old you are and where you were born.

0:27.3

I'm 84 and a half years old and I was born in Pubna, which is now part of Bangladesh.

0:39.8

I know it's really emotional and hard to talk about and I really appreciate your

0:47.3

sharing this story, which is a family story, but it's also a story that's important

0:52.7

for all the generations to know. My stepmother was born in colonial India, nine years before

1:02.2

the subcontinent won its independence from Britain. Her ancestral home was in Pubna in eastern Bengal

1:08.0

province, where her father's extended family lived peacefully in a mixed community. Her grandfather

1:13.7

also rented a city house in Kolkata, then known by its anglicized name Calcutta in western Bengal.

1:19.6

For centuries, more than half a dozen religions lived side by side in the Indian subcontinent.

1:25.6

But by the mid-1940s, religious extremists had gained power in local politics and stoked

1:32.0

violence across the country, egging on gangs of radicalized Hindus to attack Muslims and vice

1:38.2

versa and often seizing property and assets as families fled. During four days of Hindu Muslim

1:44.8

riots in Kolkata in 1946, thousands of people were killed. Lotha's grandfather was a devout Hindu

1:52.5

who kept a prayer room in his Kolkata home. It was a strike. Not just prayer room he had his gods

1:59.6

and everything there and he used to clean it himself. He didn't allow servants to go in, nothing.

2:04.7

He was a very aesthetic person. As Hindu gangs encircled their neighborhood,

2:12.3

my great grandfather rushed his Muslim landlords family into his Pooja room,

2:17.0

a room so sacred that not even his own grandchildren could enter it.

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