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🗓️ 28 July 2025
⏱️ 6 minutes
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In this episode, we continue our conversation with Alex DiFeliceantonio about how to actually make healthy eating more appealing to your brain. We dive into the science of flavor, anticipation, and food reward—and why roasted veggies with butter are totally fair game. Alex shares her 80/20 approach to feeding her family, what’s in her emergency grocery cart, and why she avoids artificial sweeteners for her kid. We also talk about the sneaky ways food companies use health labels to trick you.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to another episode of the talk. |
| 0:03.7 | Today we are continuing our conversation with Dr. Alex D. Felice-Antonio, |
| 0:08.3 | all about ultra-processed foods and the brain. |
| 0:11.8 | Okay, my question to you is, we've talked a lot about the negative effects ultra-processed |
| 0:17.2 | food has on the brain. |
| 0:18.7 | Is there a way to harness the way you know your brain |
| 0:22.9 | works to try to make healthy foods more craveable or interest into your brain? |
| 0:28.6 | Like, I'm even thinking about the fact that, oh, okay, you already have an answer. |
| 0:32.6 | Okay, let's hear it. |
| 0:34.3 | Well, so I think that people, and this is something we've been talking about a lot, |
| 0:38.9 | we're working on a paper right now where we're trying to understand like what nutritional |
| 0:42.1 | factors kind of increase the addictiveness of certain foods, the addictive potential of certain foods. |
| 0:48.1 | And we really are trying to get away from this idea that there's some sort of like single |
| 0:53.7 | nutrient that is going to, |
| 0:56.2 | to, you know, lead to some sort of poor health outcome. You have to take a really holistic |
| 1:00.7 | approach. And so I really, I would say anything that increases your fruit and vegetable |
| 1:07.0 | consumption, right? So like we know that people in the U.S. do not eat enough fruits and |
| 1:11.2 | vegetables. And then I think we get this idea of, like, oh, well, if I put, like, cheese on the broccoli, it's not healthy anymore. And it's like, no, put cheese on the broccoli. Put salt on the broccoli. Right, right. Right. Those are things that are going to signal to your brain, like, oh, yeah, this is really good and over time you'll really learn to like the other flavors that are associated |
| 1:11.3 | with that. |
| 1:31.2 | And so if you don't like vegetables, we know that exposure, so repeated exposure to foods will lead to liking. |
| 1:38.3 | And if you can't make yourself eat them like steamed, yeah, don't eat them like steamed and plain. |
| 1:43.0 | Put something really tasty on them. And over time, you'll eat them like steamed and plain. Put something really tasty on them. |
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