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The History Hour

The Trial of Maurice Papon

The History Hour

BBC

Personal Journals, History, Society & Culture

4.4912 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2017

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The French minister tried for colluding with the Nazis, the USSR's version of James Bond, the beginning of China's economic boom, plus the first time Americans were told they were too fat - but that their wine was better than France's.

PHOTO: Maurice Papon in October 1997, shortly after his trial for war crimes opened. (Credit: Francois Guillot/AFP/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the History Hour Podcast from the BBC World Service with me Max Pearson

0:05.3

the past brought to life by those who were there. This week Russia's answer to James Bond

0:11.2

a 1970s television character with a more subtle approach to the Dark Arts of Espionage.

0:17.0

Ours was a real drama and they simply showed a fairy tale.

0:27.0

Even though they have lots of explosions and action and all that,

0:31.0

you don't feel for the character. You don't worry about him like our audience worried.

0:37.0

Also how America was told to change its diet in the 1970s.

0:44.0

Bacon for breakfast, hamburgers, for lunch, centerpiece for dinner would be a steak or lamb chops.

0:52.0

Plus the birth of China's economic miracle in the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone,

0:56.0

and the moment French wine producers realized they might not be the best.

1:00.0

Everyone was accused of spitting in the face of France. How can you possibly? And I was accused of spitting in the soup.

1:06.0

But the judges had a really bad time and that their colleagues could not believe it and blame them.

1:13.6

That's all to come. But first, France has a new president,

1:17.2

Emmanuel Macron, who has promised to fight the forces of division within French society.

1:22.4

These days, that might mean trying to heal the rift

1:24.9

between left and right or between rich and poor, Christian and Muslim. But for the whole of the second

1:30.4

half of the 20th century, France was haunted by the division which took root during the Second

1:35.4

World War. That was between those who resisted the German occupation of France and those who were

1:40.8

prepared to work with the Nazis.

1:43.0

In 1997, the former government minister Maurice Papon

1:47.0

became the most senior member of France's wartime Vichy government

1:51.0

to be put on trial for colluding with the German occupiers.

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