The Trawl Meets: UB40

The Trawl

Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss

Politics, Government, News

4.6 • 708 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Jemma and Marina were thrilled when two of the original members of UB40 agreed to come on The Trawl Meets. After all, the group are one of the most commercially successful bands of all time, having sold more records than Oasis, over 100 million to be precise. Of course they are almost as known for their political leanings as they are for their wonderful music so it's a match made in Trawl heaven.

Even the band’s name is famously a reference to the unemployment benefit form, each had signed having left school without a job, so it was fascinating to chat politics, music and everything in between with drummer, Jimmy Brown and guitarist Robin Campbell.

They talked about how they began, what it was like to be discovered by Chrissie Hynde and why history comes full circle. They and other members of the band have always spoken out against racism and indeed, protested against the National Front decades ago. Yet here we are and Farage and Robinson et al are on the rise. Have we gone backwards?

The band supported Corbyn when he was Labour leader so how do they feel now and what do they make of Starmer? Are we all preaching to the converted or can art change minds? And what really happened when Robin's brother, Ali, left the band? Get the real lowdown, their no holds barred version and, it being The Trawl expect some giggles as well. Jemma's been making Max make UB40 inspired jingles.

Pudding is served by another reggae legend - the one and only Bob Marley.

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Edited by Max Carrey

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0:00.0	This little kiddie went to nursery.
0:02.8	This little kiddie stayed at home.
0:05.6	And this little kiddie went oink oink and had lots of Peppa Pig fun.
0:13.0	Hello, I'm Peppa Pig.
0:15.1	Come and meet Pepper and George at Pepper Pig World.
0:19.1	Poulton's Park with five incredible worlds to explore
0:22.1	and voted best theme park for families at the UK theme park awards.
0:26.5	Best day ever!
0:28.5	And because one day won't do, book an official short break
0:32.1	and get your second park day free.
0:34.6	Exclusions apply.
0:36.1	PoultonIT Park!
0:38.1	Home of Pepper Big World.
0:40.0	They were deregulating the banks.
0:42.0	They were selling off houses and that, you know, those are the problems that we're dealing with now.
0:49.9	Hello and welcome to The Trawle Meets. I'm Marina Perkins.
0:53.7	And I'm Gemma Forte. And on the Trawl meets, Marina and I get to Trawl Meets. I'm Marina Perkis. And I'm Gemma Forte and on the Trawl Meets,
0:56.1	Marina and I get to chat with people we admire and find interesting. We discuss political topics
1:01.6	they're passionate about and explore their unique experience of social media. And today is a trawl first, for
1:08.1	a couple of reasons. It's the first T first troll meets of 2025. And it's the first
1:13.9	time we've ever spoken to more than one person in an episode. Because today, we are meeting
1:20.0	two members of an iconic group, a group who have 160,000 followers on Instagram, 1.2 million subscribers on YouTube, and 1.2 million
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