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🗓️ 30 December 2020
⏱️ 123 minutes
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0:00.0 | And the Oh, Hello. Hello everyone and welcome to our second Q&A episode of the Trail went cold. |
0:39.0 | I'm your host Robin Warder and I hope that everyone had a very happy holidays. The date of this episode's release is |
0:46.0 | December the 30th and we're about to close off the halaicious year that was |
0:50.3 | 2020. I released our original Q&A episode two years ago |
0:55.0 | and it seemed to go over very well, |
0:57.0 | so I thought now would be a good time to do another one. |
1:00.0 | What's interesting is that a few of the questions I received this year were repeats of questions I already got back in 2018, |
1:08.0 | but due to the passage of time, I might now actually have different answers to some of them so stay tuned. |
1:15.0 | Anyway without any further ado let's get started. |
1:19.0 | So I'm going to start off by answering the question that I received more than any other, and variations |
1:26.0 | of it were sent in by listeners Darren, Christie, Charles, and Patricia. |
1:31.8 | One variation of this question was, if you could wave a magic wand and get all the answers to a crime slash mystery slash missing person, what would you pick? Or, which case, if any, would you like to know what happened and see solved the most? |
1:47.8 | Well, anyone who knows me well will guess that my pet case is the Winter Garden Furniture Store murders which took place on Christmas |
1:55.5 | Eve in 1975 where Tommy Ziegler was convicted of these murders and has spent the past four decades on death row and is still there at the age of 75. |
2:07.0 | There are a lot of people, including myself, who believe that Tommy was wrongly convicted, |
2:12.0 | and the cases remained so controversial that they have never gone through with his execution. |
2:17.0 | This is an incredibly convoluted case and back when I originally recorded my podcast episodes about it, I still had the mindset that even if Tommy was guilty, there's no way this crime unfolded like the prosecution presented at his trial, as the scenario they presented just had way too many holes in it. |
2:36.4 | Either way you look at it, this case is a massive jigsaw puzzle and it's really difficult to put all the pieces together and make them fit because we basically have a two and a half hour window when these murders took place where a lot of different events unfolded, but there are just so many different versions from different witnesses so it's hard to get a handle on what actually happened |
2:57.5 | So if someone could ask me about which case where I would want to find out what happened from point A to point Z and get the full truth, |
3:06.0 | it would definitely be this one. |
3:08.8 | What's crazy is that earlier this year, Tommy actually wound up contracting COVID and even though he's a very elderly man and got very ill he wound up |
3:18.8 | pulling through and he's still holding on today and they recently elected a new state attorney named Monique |
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