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The Trail Went Cold

The Trail Went Cold - Episode 206 - Q&A

The Trail Went Cold

Robin Warder

True Crime, Tv & Film

4.53.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2020

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

In 2018, “The Trail Went Cold” released a special Q&A episode in which Robin Warder answered a number of questions from listeners. This year, we decided to do a follow-up episode and received some more interesting questions. Of all the cases you’ve covered, which ones have the best chance of being solved in the near-future? What do your family and co-workers think about the podcast? What is the average day in the life of a podcaster like? What cases would you like to cover, but need additional information to make it a viable episode? Have you ever been threatened or harassed by any of the people associated with the cases you discussed? These questions and many others will be answered as we close out 2020 with our second Q&A episode of “The Trail Went Cold”. “The Trail Went Cold” is on Patreon! Visit www.patreon.com/thetrailwentcold to become a patron and gain access to our exclusive bonus content. “The Trail Went Cold” is going to be appearing on podcast row at “Crimecon 2021: Austin” at the Fairmont Hotel in Austin, Texas on June 2-4, 2021, as well as “Crimecon UK” at the Leonardo Royal Hotel & Spa in London on June 12-13, 2021. To get a 10 % discount on the purchase of tickets to either event, please use our specialized promo code, “COLD21”, by visiting https://www.crimecon.com/CC21 or https://www.crimecon.co.uk. “The Trail Went Cold” is now doing a weekly livestream show on GetVokl every Thursday from 7:00-8:00 PM ET as part of their “True Crime Thursday” line-up. For more information, please visit their website. The Trail Went Cold is produced and edited by Magill Foote. All music is composed by Vince Nitro.

Transcript

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0:00.0

And the Oh, Hello. Hello everyone and welcome to our second Q&A episode of the Trail went cold.

0:39.0

I'm your host Robin Warder and I hope that everyone had a very happy holidays. The date of this episode's release is

0:46.0

December the 30th and we're about to close off the halaicious year that was

0:50.3

2020. I released our original Q&A episode two years ago

0:55.0

and it seemed to go over very well,

0:57.0

so I thought now would be a good time to do another one.

1:00.0

What's interesting is that a few of the questions I received this year were repeats of questions I already got back in 2018,

1:08.0

but due to the passage of time, I might now actually have different answers to some of them so stay tuned.

1:15.0

Anyway without any further ado let's get started.

1:19.0

So I'm going to start off by answering the question that I received more than any other, and variations

1:26.0

of it were sent in by listeners Darren, Christie, Charles, and Patricia.

1:31.8

One variation of this question was, if you could wave a magic wand and get all the answers to a crime slash mystery slash missing person, what would you pick? Or, which case, if any, would you like to know what happened and see solved the most?

1:47.8

Well, anyone who knows me well will guess that my pet case is the Winter Garden Furniture Store murders which took place on Christmas

1:55.5

Eve in 1975 where Tommy Ziegler was convicted of these murders and has spent the past four decades on death row and is still there at the age of 75.

2:07.0

There are a lot of people, including myself, who believe that Tommy was wrongly convicted,

2:12.0

and the cases remained so controversial that they have never gone through with his execution.

2:17.0

This is an incredibly convoluted case and back when I originally recorded my podcast episodes about it, I still had the mindset that even if Tommy was guilty, there's no way this crime unfolded like the prosecution presented at his trial, as the scenario they presented just had way too many holes in it.

2:36.4

Either way you look at it, this case is a massive jigsaw puzzle and it's really difficult to put all the pieces together and make them fit because we basically have a two and a half hour window when these murders took place where a lot of different events unfolded, but there are just so many different versions from different witnesses so it's hard to get a handle on what actually happened

2:57.5

So if someone could ask me about which case where I would want to find out what happened from point A to point Z and get the full truth,

3:06.0

it would definitely be this one.

3:08.8

What's crazy is that earlier this year, Tommy actually wound up contracting COVID and even though he's a very elderly man and got very ill he wound up

3:18.8

pulling through and he's still holding on today and they recently elected a new state attorney named Monique

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