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Yes yes welcome into another edition of the Tim McKernan show here on the Inside

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Grant Wistram. Grant Wistram is someone who I have interviewed,

I would imagine, who knows how many times,

but most of the times they were television interviews,

either Add-A-Rams practice practice back when I was doing television and the ram

were here and Grant was playing and so you're talking about very brief

interviews and he's like giving you five minutes you know because that's what they would do

and then it's you know but you're getting 15 second sound bites there's not a lot there

I had him on the radio a couple times to play it he's always kind of amusing

he's in the thing that you will discover is,

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