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History Unplugged Podcast

The Thucydides Trap: How A Rising Athens Made The Peloponnesian War Inevitable

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged

Society & Culture, History

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The Peloponnesian War is considered one of the most famous wars of the ancient world not only because it was a massive and devastating conflict that reshaped the Greek world, but also because its thorough documentation by the historian Thucydides transformed how we understand history and war. On the face of it, the Peloponnesian War, fought over 2000 years ago in a corner of the Mediterranean, shouldn’t have made history. While the war was quite long, lasting 27 years, and oftentimes brutal, the two major parties, Athens and Sparta, were politically irrelevant within a century of the war’s conclusion. Plus the war’s cause is murky and takes a detailed understanding of Greek’s chaotic political history.  And yet, it was this conflict which would be remembered for centuries. As the subject of a detailed history by Thucydides, an Athenian war general and historian, the story of the Peloponnesian War remains essential reading for politicians, historians, and students.
 
Today’s guest is Polly Low, who authored part of a new translation of The History of the Peloponnesian War.  The translation depicts the events of the war between Athens and Sparta that began in 431 BC and would continue until 404, a conflict that embroiled not only mainland Greece but Greek states from the eastern Mediterranean and as far west as Italy and Sicily. 

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0:00.0

It's going to hear with another episode of the History Unplug podcast.

0:07.3

The Peloponnesian Wars considered one of the most famous wars of the ancient world,

0:11.6

not only because it was a devastating conflict that reshaped the Greek world,

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but because of its thorough documentation by the historian Thucydides, who transformed how we understand history in war. But it's also

0:21.8

strange that out of all the wars, this is the one when we remember, when there's a lot of good

0:25.8

reasons that we shouldn't. The Pelopithnesia War was fought over 2,000 years ago in a corner of the

0:30.4

Mediterranean that was long, lasted 27 years and was brutal, but the two major parties, Athens

0:36.2

and Sparta, were irrelevant within a century

0:38.6

of the war's conclusion. They were easily swept up by Rome when it expanded, and by the time of

0:43.6

the height of Rome's imperial power, Sparta was basically a dude ranch, where citizens would

0:48.5

play act how their soldiers used to fight for the amusement of Roman tourists. But despite all this,

0:54.1

it was the Peloponnesian

0:55.1

war which would be remembered for centuries. Because of the work of Thucydides, who is an Athenian

1:00.1

war general and historian, it's an essential reading for politicians, historians, and students.

1:05.3

And even today in the 21st century, it can help explain what can happen when things go wrong

1:09.7

in a multipolar world.

1:15.5

Today's guest is Polly Lowe, who authored part of a new translation of the history of the Paloponnesian War. It depicts the events of the war between Athens and Sparta that began

1:19.3

in 431 BC and would continue until 404. The conflict embroiled mainland Greece, but also

1:24.6

Greek states from the eastern Mediterranean, and as far west as Italy and Sicily.

1:28.9

We look at what the war meant, the world of Thucydides, how messy political alliances can drag people

1:34.1

into war that they never intended to fight, but what it all means for today.

1:37.9

Hope we enjoyed this discussion with Polly Lo.

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