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Witness History

The ‘Three Marias’

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In May 1974, people gathered in Lisbon, Portugal, to see whether three women would be sent to jail for writing a book.

Maria Teresa Horta, Maria Velho da Costa and Maria Isabel Barreno’s ‘Novas Cartas Portuguesas’ was banned after it was published and they were put on trial.

The case of the ‘Three Marias’ became famous around the world. Laura Jones listens to an archive interview of Maria Teresa Horta, who is now 87.

Archive audio is courtesy of Tommaso Barsali and Riccardo Bargellini, at Valigie Rosse from 2018.

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(Photo: Women in Los Angeles, USA protesting about the 'Three Marias' being on trial in Portugal. Credit: Los Angeles Times/Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:46.3

Hello, this is the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service with me, Laura Jones.

0:55.3

For this moment in history, I'm taking you back more than 50 years to the heart of Portugal's capital city Lisbon. On the 7th of May, 1974, when people gathered to see whether three women would be

1:02.0

sent to jail for writing a book. This is the story of the three Marias.

1:16.1

It was time in Portugal for women to have a say about sexuality.

1:22.0

Women's sexuality was attributed to the husband, to the man with whom they lived.

1:26.0

If the man prefers such and such, so would she.

1:31.0

This was such a suffocating thing I used to talk about with women.

1:37.2

This is Maria Theresa Oter, a Portuguese feminist poet, journalist and activist.

1:47.0

I was born in a country that wanted freedom, a terrible country, a country of police, a country of cruelty,

1:54.5

a country of imprisonment and torture. And I found myself at a very early age saying, it's not possible. The authoritarian dictatorship of the Estadu Novo, or New State, was in power,

2:02.6

with Prime Minister Antonio de Oliveira Silazar in charge.

2:07.7

Maria Theresa's country was one where women's rights were few.

2:11.6

She needed an outlet for her frustrations, and that was poetry.

2:16.0

Her first book came out in 1960. In my own way, I'm a very insubordinate person.

2:24.6

To me, poetry is freedom and what I value most in my life is freedom. It is adventure. It is the

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