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The Thirst for Immortality and the Soul’s Need for Purgatory | Carol Zaleski

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🗓️ 22 December 2018

⏱️ 41 minutes

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This lecture was offered at NYU on November 10th, 2018. For more information about upcoming TI events, visit: thomisticinstitute.org/events-1/

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0:00.0

So, 100,000 years ago or so, our long-faced Neanderthal cousins took the trouble to bury their dead

0:09.5

with flowers, feathers, and shells. 30,000 years or so ago, our large-brained cromagnon ancestors dressed their dead

0:20.3

in jeweled garments and furnished them with ivory statues and stone tools.

0:25.6

Perhaps there were some practical-minded citizens among them who protested the waste of resources.

0:33.6

But the practical-minded citizens did not prevail, and to this day they do not prevail.

0:39.8

Now, the fossil record is tricky to interpret and controversial, but if you set it alongside the records of the historic civilizations,

0:48.3

the suggestion is hard to miss.

0:51.3

We human beings care for our dead, not counting the cost, because we are convinced

0:58.7

that our dead still live in some sense. Sigmund Freud thought he could explain this curious

1:06.6

fact. In February 1915, he gave a talk called Thoughts for the Times on War and Death to his

1:13.9

B'nai Bredt Lodge in Vienna. The world had been at war for eight months. Two of his own sons

1:21.4

were at the front. This war he had once regarded it as an ennobling exercise that would usher in a new age of enlightenment

1:30.3

was proving instead to be an object lesson

1:33.6

in human self-deception.

1:36.1

It was also exposing Freud thought

1:39.2

the hidden psychic mechanisms that compel human beings

1:43.2

to believe in life after death. Freud said that at bottom,

1:48.2

we don't believe in our own death. In the unconscious, in my infantile mind, I am immortal. Whenever

1:56.6

I try to think of my death, I imagine myself as a spectator.

2:01.6

On the other hand, Freud said, I have no trouble believing in the death of a stranger,

2:06.6

especially an enemy who is wholly other to me.

2:10.6

So I don't believe in my death. I do believe in the death of a stranger.

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