It's the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hello everybody how we doing

how we doing remember a few months ago when Jada Pinkett Smith put out a memoir and basically dominated the news cycle for a few weeks.

Everybody was talking about her marriage, that infamous slap at the Oscars, Scientology, etc.

So my team and I actually, we took a look at the book

and decided that the most interesting stuff

was none of the above.

I interviewed her right in the middle of all of the sound and

fury and I asked her about the stuff that nobody else was asking her about.

We've sat on the interview for a minute just to let all of the other noise die down, but we are bringing it to you now.

Her book, as you may remember, is called Worthy and it largely concerns itself with her extraordinarily intense effort to understand herself and the world.

She is one of the most dedicated, and I never know the right term for this, but let's with spiritual seeker which I don't love but it's apt anyway

Jada is one of the most dedicated spiritual seekers I have come across in a minute, definitely among celebrities.

She has studied with Buddhist masters,

she's done Iowasca, therapy, meditation, you name it.

So today we're gonna talk about dropping

your habitual storylines and tapping into something larger,

suffering with grace, surrendering, peaceful striving, why some people like martyrdom,

what it was like for her to hit rock bottom,

the process of removing her armor, and why the concept of worthiness

is so important to her.

Just to say this is part of a little summer experiment we're running here on the show where

we're doing a series of celebrity interviews.

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