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The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 5: Just a Little Red Paint

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Society & Culture, News, True Crime, Culture, Social

4.440.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The investigation goes into high gear with the discovery of the murder weapon. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Few things reveal a person's character faster, that a windfall of easy money.

0:10.9

And then you can't be skater money. Who cares? Who cares? We have nothing left. Be quiet.

0:16.7

Of course, it must be said. Helen Goli and Olga Rudderschmidt had the foul scent of corruption about them

0:22.7

long before they cashed their first big insurance checks.

0:27.2

And these women, it's incredible to think of their mindset.

0:32.2

So maybe what happened next wasn't so much of a fall from grace

0:37.3

as the inevitable destination of a long escalator ride to the bottom.

0:43.2

Am I going to be taken to jail and put in a jail?

0:46.9

Yes, Helen and Olga were going to jail.

0:50.3

From petty crime and frivolous lawsuits,

0:53.2

they graduated to insurance fraud. Between the two of lawsuits, they'd graduated to insurance fraud.

0:56.1

Between the two of them, they'd collected nearly $3 million in life insurance payouts

1:00.7

would have collected more, too, if they hadn't been arrested.

1:05.2

They knew how to work these insurance companies.

1:08.6

And what was revealed in the end by that windfall of easy money?

1:13.4

Well, a black and bottomless hole where a moral compass should be.

1:19.1

I think if people saw what evil looked like, they would want to turn away from it because

1:23.7

it was so horrible.

1:24.9

But I do believe it's possible to put up a facade or veneer, you know, over evil motives.

1:30.0

On this episode, you'll hear from the detectives who were determined to prove that these two

1:35.3

70-something women were more than thieves.

1:39.5

They were cold-blooded killers.

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