The “Thank You, Jimmy Carter” Edition

Political Gabfest

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Politics, Government, News

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🗓️ 2 January 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the presidency and post-presidential life of Jimmy Carter; the infighting of Elon Musk v. MAGA; and the possibilities of citizens’ assemblies with The New Yorker’s Nick Romeo. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: John Dickerson for CBS Mornings: John Dickerson on Jimmy Carter’s legacy and a life shaped by faith CBS News: From the archives: Jimmy Carter becomes first president to walk in inaugural parade to White House and WGAL: Harrisburg, 1979: Jimmy Carter visits TMI after partial meltdown Sam Stein and Jonathan Alter for The Bulwark: Jimmy Carter was a misunderstood President. Here’s Why. and His Very Best: Jimmy Carter, A Life by Jonathan Alter Stephen Hess for The Brookings Institution: Jimmy Carter: Why He Failed Todd S. Purdum for The Atlantic: Jimmy Carter Was America’s Most Effective Former President and Gal Beckerman: What Made Jimmy Carter Such a Strange President Andrew Prokop for Vox: Elon Musk is on a collision course with Stephen Miller Jonathan Edwards for The Washington Post: MAGA is fighting a ‘civil war’ over H-1B visas. Here’s what they are. Nick Romeo for The New Yorker: What Could Citizens’ Assemblies Do For American Politics? History.com: Ancient Greek Democracy and Simon Hornblower for Britannica: The reforms of Cleisthenes Stanford University’s Deliberative Democracy Lab Bürgerrat: Citizens’ assemblies worldwide Here are this week’s chatters: Emily: Caucasia: A Novel and Colored Television by Danzy Senna and A Complete Unknown from Searchlight Pictures John: Event Santa Cruz: Dock Ellis No-No Cocktail at Brophy’s – Carmel; Patrick Hruby for ESPN: The Long, Strange Trip of Dock Ellis: Meet The Man Behind Baseball’s Most Psychedelic Myth.; and Paul Geisler Jr. for the Society for American Baseball Research: Dock Ellis David: Billy & Molly: An Otter Love Story from National Geographic and Imperium: A Novel of Ancient Rome and Fatherland: A Novel by Robert Harris Listener chatter from Lawrence in Bowling Green, Ohio: Rhiannon Giddens for Silkroad: American Railroad: A Musical Journey of Reclamation For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David discuss what President Joe Biden should do in his final two weeks in the Oval Office. In the latest Gabfest Reads, David talks with David Greenberg about his new biography, John Lewis: A Life. Email your chatters, questions, and comments to [email protected]. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Jared Downing Research by Julie Huygen Want more Political Gabfest? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the Political Gabfest show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or visit slate.com/gabfestplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosts Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz Follow @SlateGabfest on X / https://twitter.com/SlateGabfest Slate Political Gabfest on Facebook / https://www.facebook.com/Gabfest/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.0	Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest.
0:42.0	January 2nd, 2025.
0:44.2	Thank you, Jimmy Carter edition.
0:50.2	I'm David Plotz of CityCast, celebrating the new year here in my Washington, D.C. home from New York Times Magazine and Yale University Law School, the 2025 version of Emily Bazelon, a year older, but even wiser, even more than a year wiser.
1:02.2	Hmm, what else am I more of? I don't want to think about that. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, Emily. And John Dickerson of CBS News, hello, John Dickerson, happy new year. Also, older and wiser.
1:17.3	Happy New Year, David. And happy New Year to you, Emily. And I'm already collecting conundrums for our 2025 show.
1:24.9	This week on the Gap Fest, we will remember Jimmy Carter and talk about his impact
1:29.1	on America and the world, both as president and afterwards. Then the conflict between the two
1:35.0	wings of the new Republican Party, a Musk wing and a MAGA nationalist wing over immigration,
1:41.3	what it could signal about Trump's presidency.
1:48.7	Then there's a fascinating story in The New Yorker that explores citizen assemblies in which average local Joes and Jains get together, talk to each other, and make policy recommendations
1:55.3	to the government. We'll talk to the author, Nick Romeo. Plus, we'll have cocktail
1:59.9	chatter. And we're going to try something new in the coming weeks and months.
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2:07.0	If you have a question for us, something you'd like us to discuss that we can devote a Slate
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