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This is Recode Media with Peter Koska. That's me speaking to you from Vox Media headquarters

in New York City. In the second podcast room, that means we're growing because we need more room for more podcasts. But enough about us, let's introduce you to this week's guests, Emily Ramshaw. Editor-in-chief, Texas Tribune. You got it. Welcome, Emily. Thank you. Thanks for having me. If you have listened to this podcast, you know that local journalism is struggling. If you listen to this podcast, you might know

that the Texas Tribune is a rare counter example of local journalism that works. I don't know all about

that and how Emily is making all of that happen. You've been there 10 years? I have since day one.

I was the person out buying reams of paper and staplers on our very first day. I want to read a

quote. Hopefully it's accurate.

Uh-oh. This is about you leaving the Dallas morning news to go to what was then a tiny unproven startup. Oh, man, I know exactly where you're going here. It's good. It's a good thing. I feel and still feel that the newspaper business is in serious crisis. This is back in 2009. I'm not content to cling to a deck chair and go down with a sinking ship.

We're trying to prepare for the... the newspaper business is in serious crisis. This is back in 2009. I'm not content to cling to a deck

chair and go down with a sinking ship. We're trying to prepare for the next incarnation of journalism.

If this venture is going to work, it's going to work because serious, talented journalists were

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