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The targets of Trump's DOJ are already paying a price

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

At President Trump’s public urging, the Justice Department has brought criminal charges against some of his perceived political enemies. NPR Justice Correspondent Carrie Johnson explains that for those targeted, a prosecution can mean steep financial and emotional costs, even if they ultimately win in court.


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0:00.0

Defending yourself against criminal prosecution can get expensive. Just ask President Trump.

0:06.4

Legal fees. I have $100 million worth of legal fees. And they're doing good. At least I have good lawyers.

0:14.0

That's Trump at a rally in 2023. At the time, he was facing indictments in two federal cases, plus state charges in New York and Georgia.

0:23.2

Trump, of course, is personally wealthy.

0:25.9

Plus, his political action committees contributed tens of millions of dollars to his legal defense.

0:31.0

He even fundraised off news of those indictments.

0:34.0

The only crime that I have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those

0:39.6

who seek to destroy it. So the legal defense wasn't financially ruinous to Trump personally,

0:45.6

but it cost a lot, even though he hasn't faced criminal fines in any of those cases. The Justice

0:51.6

Department walked away from the federal cases against Trump when he was

0:54.7

re-elected. The Georgia case has stalled. And he was convicted in the New York case, but his sentencing

1:00.4

came after he was re-elected, so he received no fines or prison time. But he won't get back all those

1:06.7

fees paid to his lawyers. That's just how the justice system works.

1:16.3

Now, at Trump's public urging, the Justice Department has brought criminal charges against some of his perceived political enemies, like former FBI director James Comey.

1:21.0

My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal

1:26.9

judicial system and I'm innocent.

1:29.5

So let's have a trial.

1:34.4

Consider this. Even if the targets of Trump's Department of Justice are ultimately vindicated in court,

1:41.4

facing a prosecution comes with real costs.

1:49.0

Thank you. in court, facing a prosecution comes with real costs. From NPR, I'm Melissa Nadwarnie.

1:53.5

In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life.

1:58.3

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