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The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

The TAFS 2025 Wins Pool Draft

The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL

The Athletic

Sports, Football, Nfl Draft, Robert Mays, Nfl, Football,

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The annual Wins Pool Draft is here. Three drafters, seven teams apiece, glory and ignominy at stake. What more could you ask for? In both of the last two seasons, Robert Mays has had to pay off an embarrassing bet on Radio Row. Will he make it three years in a row, or will Derrik Klassen or Dave Helman save him and fall into the TAFS Wins Pool basement? Listen along as they guys select seven teams—five good and two bad, with bad being defined as a win total over/under of 6.5 or fewer—on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.


Host: Robert Mays

Co-Hosts: Derrik Klassen and Dave Helman

Executive Producer: Michael Beller

Producer: Michael Beller


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0:00.0

Disney Lullaby, a cute playlist with soothing lullaby versions of Disney songs.

0:11.0

The Disney Lullaby playlist. Listen now.

0:27.3

Welcome to the athletic football show.

0:28.5

I'm Robert Mays.

0:31.2

It is time for the annual wins pool draft.

0:32.9

We have done this for the last two years.

0:35.1

I have lost each of the last two years.

0:36.8

Exercise is pretty simple.

0:54.8

Me, Derek, and Dave are each going to pick five teams in a snake draft that we think are going to finish with the most wins in the NFL. The goal is to have the most combined wins by the end of the season. We added this wrinkle last year. We're going to keep doing it. We're also picking two teams that are projected to finish with six and a half or fewer wins when you look at Vegas over-unders. So we're going to have seven teams apiece, 21 teams total. So most of the

1:01.4

league compared to what we've done over the last couple years. I hate my team. You

1:05.1

guys will hear that as we go through it. I have the third pick. I feel like I was screwed

1:08.2

by the random order generator, but that's where we are right now.

1:11.6

So let's get to this year's edition of the 2025 Winspool Draft for the Athletic Football Show.

1:22.5

It's time for an annual tradition, what has become an annual tradition, that I have come to loathe because

1:28.3

I have lost it over the last two years and paid off a bet that was humiliating in front of all

1:33.8

of our colleagues, Derek. Two years in a row at Radio Row, I have had to do terribly embarrassing

1:38.5

things in front of everyone we know in our professional space. And I'm really hoping Dave joining

1:44.1

us this year and cutting down

1:45.4

my percentages of loss from 50 to 33 gets me into a better spot with this. But I'm not holding my

1:51.3

breath. So you don't have any more confident that you can beat me necessarily. Why would I?

1:55.9

I don't intend to let you. So I'm feeling pretty good good i have a really vivid memory of because before i

2:01.6

joined the show i still worked in NFL media and i remember you in the hot dog costume on radio row at

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