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🗓️ 6 December 2024
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Susan Cox Powell disappeared 15 years ago. The day after she turned up missing, her four-year-old son Charlie Powell spoke to a detective from the West Valley City, Utah police department. Charlie told the detective his mommy had joined him, his little brother Braden and their dad, Susan’s husband Josh Powell, on a camping trip. But Charlie also said Susan didn’t come home. She stayed “where the crystals are.” In this special bonus episode, we explore what Charlie was trying to tell us about Susan’s fate. We also speak with forensic interview specialist Brianna Martinez about how the approach to interviewing kids has changed over the last 15 years.
For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley has been studying thousands of police documents, journals, videos and diary entries. He tracked down new sources, followed new leads and traced Josh Powell's trail from West Valley City, Utah, through Idaho, Oregon, Nevada and on to Washington State, where Powell killed himself and his two sons. Cold is the most complete retelling of the Susan Powell story ever. Join Dave Cawley in his search for truth.
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0:24.2 | This podcast includes discussion of domestic abuse and other forms of violence. While not explicit, it's probably a good idea to use |
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0:44.3 | Fifteen years have passed since the last time anyone saw Susan Cox Powell. |
0:51.3 | The Facebook groups that once buzzed with tens of thousands of members, |
0:56.4 | all clamoring for answers, are pretty quiet these days. Every once in a while, someone new to |
1:02.7 | Susan's story will join and post a question, asking if this or that place has ever been searched. |
1:09.0 | The comments will inevitably turn into a discussion of abandoned mines, caves, or crystals. |
1:15.4 | There was flowers and crystals that was colorful. |
1:20.6 | That was what? |
1:22.1 | That was colorful. |
1:23.8 | Colorful? |
1:24.8 | Yeah. |
1:25.3 | Yeah? |
1:26.2 | I understand why many people think crystals are the clue that will lead us to the discovery of |
1:31.3 | Susan's remains. |
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