The Surrogate

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Carrie Jade Williams, Scandal, Scam, Tiktok, Documentary, Sue Perkins, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.4 • 933 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

When Lucy Hart, a smiley 26-year-old from the UK arrived in Tullamore Ireland in 2014, she seemed like the perfect au pair. But the truth behind Lucy's life before she became an au pair spanned two countries, three children and a long history of lies.

In this episode, Sue Perkins and Katherine Denkinson hear stories from the women who hired Lucy to look after their children and dive deep into a story stranger and darker than anybody could have predicted to investigate the woman behind the identity of Lucy Hart.

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0:00.0	The following episode contains discussion of suicide and child loss that some listeners might find upsetting.
0:07.0	So please do take care as you listen.
0:10.0	Inviting another person into your home may seem risky, but for thousands of parents across the UK and Ireland, having an au pair, well it's a perfect solution to managing a large family.
0:21.5	I put this woman in charge of my small children.
0:24.8	That's Bonnie. Catherine spoke to her as part of her investigation.
0:28.9	But to protect her privacy, we've changed her name and voice. She's in her 40s and lives with her husband and children in Tullamore, Ireland.
0:37.0	In 2014, Lucy Hart, a smiley, lively 26-year-old from the UK, had come into Bonnie's life and seemed
0:46.6	like the answer to all her prayers.
0:48.8	She was experienced in child care and had lots of stories about her job as an aupere that had taken her well all over the world.
0:55.0	Seeming like the perfect match for Bonnie's family, they invited Lucy to become their opere.
1:00.0	But in December 2014, arriving home after a long day at work, Bonnie noticed that her children and Lucy weren't getting along so well.
1:10.0	And when they sat down to chat, Lucy accused Bonnie's children of something.
1:16.0	She tried to blame my kids for stealing her engagement ring and money, which never happened.
1:23.7	Lucy was adamant that Bonnie's children had taken her money and jewelry.
1:29.3	But Bonnie knew her children, she knew they weren't thieves. It was the beginning of the end of their
1:33.8	friendship and would lead Bonnie to question Lucy's other stories which eventually
1:39.1	led to a truth that was stranger and darker than Bonnie could ever have imagined.
1:44.8	It doesn't really adequately protect intended parents and surrogate born children. You have pleaded guilty to a very cruel and hateful fraud.
1:56.0	I never asked her for references or passport.
1:59.0	We cannot believe that anyone can be so callous.
2:02.0	When I read the cards after she left, believe that anyone can be so callous.
2:03.0	When I read the cards after she left, my blood ran cold.
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