The surprising ways we gesture about time and space, with Lauren Gawne
Grammar Girl: For Writers and Language Lovers.
Mignon Fogarty, Inc.
4.5 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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1113. This week, we talk with linguist Lauren Gawne about her book "Gesture: A Slim Guide." We look at how different cultures gesture about abstract concepts like time and space, and how we unknowingly gesture from our left-to-right writing system. We also look at why pointing is often rude, how different cultures point in different ways, and whether animals gesture on their own.
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| 0:00.0 | Grammar Girl here. I'm In Yon Fogarty, and today's show was originally released in June as a bonus segment for the people who support the show, our Grammar Pellusians. If you would like to be a Grammar Pallusian and get in on the fun, including getting ad-free episodes and these bonus episodes when they first |
| 0:21.9 | come out, visit quick and dirty tips.com slash bonus to learn more. And now onto the show. |
| 0:29.9 | Greetings, grammar pelusians. Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you for your support for the show. |
| 0:34.7 | We just finished the main segment with Lauren Gahn about her new book, |
| 0:38.8 | Gesture, A Slim Guide, and all sorts of fascinating stuff. If you haven't listened to that yet, |
| 0:44.1 | go listen, you'll enjoy it. There was so much more to talk about. We're just going to continue the |
| 0:49.0 | discussion here. If you didn't miss that, Lauren Gahn is a senior lecturer in Linguistics at La Trobe University |
| 0:56.2 | in Melbourne, Australia, and she's the co-host of the Lingthusiasm podcast. Lauren, thanks again |
| 1:02.2 | for being here. Thanks, Minion. Sorry, just making a note about one of the gestures that you did. |
| 1:07.4 | We'll come back to that. Oh, no, say it now. So when you were talking about |
| 1:14.5 | we've just finished chatting. Yeah. You were pointing out to your left. Yeah. And that is for very |
| 1:21.1 | good reasons, which is that as English speakers where we have a left to write writing system, |
| 1:30.2 | we think of the left as in the past and we think of the right as in the future. Absolutely. And that was one of the topics I |
| 1:36.3 | wanted to talk about is the cultural differences and the in space and the time thing. Yeah. So this is a metaphoric gesture. Time famously is different from |
| 1:52.1 | or related to space, but because time is so abstract, we try and make sense of it by trying to pin it down to the physical world. |
| 2:03.2 | As I said, one of the metaphors that we have is that the past is in the left and the future |
| 2:08.6 | is in the right. If you ask someone to plan out their week, you can usually get a really great |
| 2:13.5 | visual gesture timeline if someone has a particular, a busy person I'm sure they'll love |
| 2:19.4 | you taking up more of their time and ask them about their busy week and hopefully you'll get a lot |
| 2:24.8 | of things moving on a left to right timeline it's also why the FedEx logo points to the right |
| 2:30.2 | because they're getting things to you in time so there's lots of this left to right gesturing, |
| 2:38.4 | but there's also a different metaphor that we have |
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