Hi Dropout listeners, it's Rebecca.

So by now you have probably heard the news, Sunny Bellwani was convicted of 12 counts

of criminal fraud.

Minutes after the verdict came down, I got a call from my colleague Brad Milke, inviting

me to come on his Daily News podcast, start here, and talk through the jury's decision.

I want to share a conversation with you.

And while you're listening, click the link in our episode description to follow, start

here, and get a wrap up of the day's top headlines each morning.

Now here's my conversation with Brad.

I know that we made so many mistakes on this front, but we were trying to take this forward

and at that time thought that we were doing the right thing.

Elizabeth Holmes said the downfall of Theronose wasn't her fault.

It was her business partners.

That's why her mega blood testing company had failed and why it's incredible claims of

using just a drop of blood for accurate, reliable tests in your local drug store just

didn't hold muster.

The jury did not buy her excuse and earlier this year convicted her of fraud.

Well of course, that business partner then turned around and said, no this was my fault.

It was Elizabeth Holmes, the guilty one.

But yesterday a different jury rejected his story as well and convicted Sunny Bellwani

in one of the biggest medical fraud cases in recent history.

Nobody has covered this story and these trials as closely as ABC's Rebecca Jarvis, host

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