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The Sunday Read: ‘The War for the Rainforest’

The Daily

The New York Times

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🗓️ 17 April 2022

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

The Indigenous Brazilian territory of Ituna-Itatá was established in 2011 for the protection of an isolated group that has never been contacted by outsiders or fully confirmed to exist. But despite its special status, it has become one of the most invaded Indigenous territories in Brazil since the election of the pro-development, anti-regulatory president, Jair Bolsonaro, in 2018 — becoming something of a poster board for the Amazon’s eventual demise. William Langewiesche explores the process of defending these preserves from outside harm, and uses Ituna-Itatá, which has now been heavily deforested, as a grim illustration of the intractable forces destroying the Amazon through logging, ranching and mining.

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My name is William Longavisha. I'm a writer for The New York Times magazine. This story is

0:09.0

about deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon and the forces that are propelling it forward

0:14.7

at an increasing rate, likely spelling the ultimate destruction of the Amazon forest.

0:21.7

The reality of deforestation is not understood by most people. There's an overly rosy view

0:27.8

of the possibilities of stopping this process. Outsiders tend to believe that political efforts

0:34.2

in the application of economic pressures from abroad may stop the destruction of the forest,

0:40.7

and that's a very restrictive view of what's really going on. It does not delve into the

0:46.1

real Amazon as it exists off the guided tour map of natural wonders.

0:53.9

The Amazon is almost completely lawless. There are a few if any consequences for killing,

0:59.8

really, and there's a lot of killing going on. In terms of risk, the worst thing you could

1:06.0

be is an environmentalist. It's too unsafe. The second is maybe being an envoy of The New

1:12.3

York Times. I was warned by various people and police forces that going to Ituna Etata,

1:19.1

which was my chosen terrain for examining deforestation, post-serious dangers. I've

1:25.3

learned through decades of working in conflict zones around the world to take warnings like

1:29.8

this seriously.

1:34.2

Ituna Etata is a provisional indigenous reserve. Indigenous reserves constitute a large percentage

1:40.8

of the total area of the Brazilian Amazon, and within those reserves there are all kinds

1:45.6

of restrictions designed to both protecting indigenous groups and their land. These

1:51.6

large areas are not policed by outside forces, leaving the indigenous groups to protect

1:57.1

both the reserve and themselves. So you would think that Ituna Etata would be a place with

2:02.9

very little deforestation going on, but in fact of all the reserves in the Brazilian Amazon,

2:09.1

it has the greatest rates of deforestation. How can this be happening? And what does it

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