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🗓️ 16 April 2023
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, my name is Yudhid Padacharji, and I'm a contributor to the New York Times magazine |
| 0:07.0 | where I write about intelligence, national security, scams, and other topics. |
| 0:13.6 | This week's Sunday read episode is from a recent story of mine for the magazine about China's |
| 0:19.6 | efforts to steal American technology and the human toll of that espionage. |
| 0:26.9 | So China's government has spent decades digging for intelligence so that it could hopefully |
| 0:32.8 | leapfrog other countries in terms of technological advancement. |
| 0:38.2 | Fifty years ago that meant something relatively harmless, like collecting whatever information |
| 0:44.6 | was available from open sources like scientific journals and books, and that sort of thing. |
| 0:51.9 | But there was a turning point in the 1980s. |
| 0:55.7 | China started hunting for secrets from the military and commercial sectors, which meant |
| 1:01.7 | looking for intellectual property for everything, from, say, pesticides to wind turbines. |
| 1:09.6 | And this time, China also began using a new approach, tapping into Chinese descendants |
| 1:16.1 | all around the world. |
| 1:18.7 | The approach went something like this. |
| 1:21.5 | These agents and civilians would identify people with Chinese roots in other countries |
| 1:27.2 | who might work in a pivotal way for a company or a government lab or a university. |
| 1:33.1 | Someone who might possess some bits of useful information. |
| 1:37.8 | They would court this person with free trips to China, invite them to give lectures, attend |
| 1:43.1 | conferences, and of course treat them lavishly with great food, luxury hotels, and maybe |
| 1:50.4 | a cash-on-errorium. |
| 1:52.6 | All with the goal, experts told me, of building relationships that China could take advantage |
| 1:58.9 | of and eventually use to get a trade secret or two into its hands. |
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