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Welcome to the straight white American Jesus Sunday interview. I'm Annika Brochmidt, author of books like The Brandstifter, the arsoness, and hosts of podcast feminist self-control and Kreuz and Flagge. Today I'm very happy to be speaking with Thomas Zimmer and we're going to be talking about the right-wing

war on history and remembrance and how this administration and its allies are trying to

cement white nationalist talking points in their false retelling of history. And I thought, let me start

with a heads up for transparency purposes. Thomas and I are friends and colleagues. We used to host the aforementioned

German language podcast on the state of US democracy together where you were still living in

the States. And I also camped out during, I think it was the last midterms in your family's

house in the basement for quite a while. So I might have some personal bias here, but you're also a very insightful commentator on the history and the current iteration of the American right, which is why you're here today. So welcome. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. I think it's the first time we've ever talked in English, actually. It is. I don't think we, also, you know, to all the listeners, we should, I feel like we need to

apologize. You'll have, you'll have two Germans giving you their non-native English, but I, I hope,

I hope you'll make it through it. You have our two vaguely continental accents to deal with in this episode. But yeah,

so you're a historian by training and you spent the last couple of years teaching at Georgetown.

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