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Straight White American Jesus

The Sunday Interview: Ableism, WCN, and MAHA

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

News, Politics

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Andrew Whitehead joins Brad Onishi to discuss his groundbreaking research revealing a disturbing connection: Christian nationalism is one of the strongest predictors of discrimination against Americans with disabilities. As the Trump administration slashes protections, funding, and civil rights for disabled people, from dismantling DEIA efforts to appointing RFK Jr. to HHS, this conversation exposes the theological and ideological roots of ableism in the Christian nationalist movement. Whitehead's peer-reviewed research shows that those who embrace Christian nationalism are three times more likely to believe we've "done enough" for people with disabilities and twice as likely to say disabled Americans "demand too much." The discussion traces these attitudes through Project 2025, prosperity gospel theology, and the historical fusion of Christian nationalism with free-market capitalism that elevates economic productivity as the measure of human worth. This episode challenges listeners to confront how certain strains of Christianity have interpreted disability as divine punishment or an opportunity for charity, rather than recognizing structural barriers that demand collective responsibility. From religious school vouchers that exclude disabled students to the dangerous myth that autism is spreading like a disease, Whitehead and Onishi reveal how the imagined "ideal American body" in Christian nationalist ideology is explicitly straight, white, native-born, and able-bodied. The conversation offers a powerful counter-vision through theologians like Nancy Eiesland, who reimagined God as disabled, and calls for Christians to vote for policies that truly value all people, not just prayers, but action. Subscribe for $3.65: ⁠https://axismundi.supercast.com/⁠ Subscribe to our free newsletter: ⁠https://swaj.substack.com/⁠ Order American Caesar by Brad Onishi: ⁠https://static.macmillan.com/static/essentials/american-caesar-9781250427922/Linktree: https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC Donate to SWAJ: https://axismundi.supercast.com/donations/new Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Axis Mundy

0:07.0

Aux Moondy Welcome to Straight White American Jesus.

0:32.7

Great to be with you for this Sunday interview.

0:35.6

Today we welcome back someone who has been on the show numerous

0:39.2

times and is an amazing scholar and person. And that is Dr. Andrew Whitehead. So Andrew, thanks for

0:45.6

coming back. Yeah. Thanks for having me back. Always fun to be here. You are a world-renowned

0:50.4

sociologist, professor of sociology at Ui Pui. You are the author of

0:55.7

Taking America Back for God with your friend and colleague Sam Perry, the author of American

1:01.2

idolatry, all about the threat of Christian nationalism to the church and to democracy.

1:06.0

The creator of American idols, the Axis Mundi podcast series that remains to this day pretty popular and

1:13.1

outlines many of the themes in your book. And so you've done so much great work in this area.

1:18.6

You are a pioneer and a seminal figure in the field for those of us who's been thinking about

1:23.6

Christian nationalism. And today we're here to talk about, I think, an undercover aspect of that conversation, and that is the ableism that is rife in the second Trump admin

1:32.8

and surprisingly from Christian nationalist sources. So let me set this up. 12 days before Donald

1:38.8

Trump took office, according to the Guardians, Saranovich, Charlie Kirk and people like Christopher Rufo were

1:46.5

online, bemoaning the fact that there are sign language interpreters at news conferences,

1:52.8

calling them wild human gesticulators and labeling it a farce. Elon Musk was sulking around

1:59.3

his pet project, Twitter, wishing he could use the R word and telling

2:04.6

people it was time to bring it back.

2:06.8

This was all part of a kind of like something in the air as Trump got back in that Trump's in

2:12.0

office now and now we can use the R word and we can get rid of all these things we don't

2:17.3

need like sign language interpreters.

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