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The Sunday Debate: The West Should Pay Reparations For Slavery

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🗓️ 29 January 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

For this archive debate from 2019, we invited a panel of top speakers to discuss the motion: The West Should Pay Reparations For Slavery. Should there be a broad programme of reparations – not just financial compensation, but acknowledgement of the crimes committed and the lasting damage caused by slavery? Or would this just worsen social tensions by reopening old wounds? Arguing for the motion were Kehinde Andrews, Professor of Black Studies at Birmingham City University; and Esther Stanford-Xosei, reparations activist and lawyer. Arguing against the motion were Katharine Birbalsingh, headmistress and co-founder of Michaela Community School in London; and Tony Sewell, educational consultant and CEO of the charity Generating Genius. The debate was chaired by social historian, author and academic, Emma Dabiri. ... Did you know that Intelligence Squared offers way more than podcasts? We’ve just launched a new online streaming platform Intelligence Squared+ and we’d love you to give it a go. It’s packed with more than 20 years’ worth of video debates and conversations on the world’s hottest topics. Tune in to live events, ask your questions or watch back on-demand totally ad-free with hours of discussion to dive into for just £14.99 a month. Visit intelligencesquaredplus.com to start watching today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes hang on these are odd-looking potatoes

0:06.0

That's kale Ian. You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

0:10.5

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes. We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips

0:16.8

I'm helping do some good. Exactly. Yeah, you're supporting the move to regenerative farming

0:22.3

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes

0:26.1

Of course you do.

0:27.6

McCain, let's all check in

0:57.6

Welcome to the Intelligent Squared podcast. I'm senior producer Connor Boyle for the Sunday debate this week

1:07.6

We're revisiting a discussion from the archive in 2019 the invited an expert panel to debate the motion the West should pay reparations for slavery

1:17.6

Our host for the debate was the author academic and broadcaster Emma Dabri. Let's join the conversation now

1:23.6

Hello and welcome to this intelligence squared debate on the motion that the West should pay reparations for slavery

1:33.6

The issue of reparations has gathered momentum and a renewed sense of urgency in recent years

1:39.6

In America Senator Elizabeth Warren who was running for the Democratic presidential nomination has backed reparations for African Americans

1:49.0

I'm closer to home at the recent Labour Party conference

1:52.4

Senior figure is called for reparations

1:54.8

Including the shadow chancellor John McDonald who suggested that one way that one way that Britain could do this would be through sharing

2:02.8

Free or cheap green technology with its former colonies

2:08.2

Cambridge University has announced that it will investigate its links with slavery and how the university gained financially from it

2:16.3

And Glasgow University has become the first British University to set up a reparative justice scheme

2:22.9

committing to pay 20 million in reparations to a tone for the university's links to the slaves trade

2:29.7

But not everybody agrees that this is the best way forward

2:32.8

They argue that we are talking about crimes committed by and two people long since gone

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