The Sunak vs. Starmer TV debate: who won?
The News Agents
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4.1 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2024
⏱️ 31 minutes
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The first election debate is done. Sunak and Starmer had it out live, on television, for an hour. Did we learn anything? Jon and Emily watched from home and give their analysis. Meanwhile Lewis has been in the dreaded “spin room” in Salford, trying to parse through the politicians’ bluster. At the end of it all- will any of it make a difference?
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.0 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:14.1 | I am standing in the Spin Room. Spin Room and I TV studios, just by the Coronation Street experience in Salford. |
| 0:22.7 | The debate has just finished, and I am surrounded by a cacophony, a panoply, whatever the |
| 0:28.8 | collective now might be, probably worse ones, of cabinet ministers, shadow cabinet ministers, |
| 0:34.9 | a waggle of spinners. |
| 0:37.1 | Spinning for their man, either Sunak or Stama, Michael Gove, Victoria Atkins for the Conservatives. |
| 0:43.4 | West Streeting, Jonathan Ashworth, Liz Kendall, others, all spinning furiously, all trying to convince |
| 0:50.2 | the scores and scores of journalists here that their man won. It was a messy, weird, |
| 0:58.4 | tetchy debate. And if you saw it, and even if you didn't, then we watched it so you didn't |
| 1:03.9 | have to. We're going to take you through all the key moments and ask the question. Has anything |
| 1:10.0 | fundamental changed about this debate? Rishi |
| 1:13.0 | Sunak needed a game changer, a knockout blow. Did he deliver it? Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:23.1 | The news agents. It's John. It's Emily. And as we speak, Lewis Goodall is scurrying around in the spin room to be spun by the various parties on why their guy did the best and how he came out on top and how he vanquished his opponent. |
| 1:40.5 | That's all to come. |
| 1:41.3 | But we are far far from the spin room. We are in newsagents HQ. |
| 1:45.7 | I have to admit, I watched the debate at home on my sofa after the chase where |
| 1:51.2 | Alexander Armstrong was taking on the judges, the team. And so I felt quite sort of, I felt the same |
| 1:57.7 | level of shock that normal people have when they're just watching their normal evenings entertainment. |
| 2:03.4 | And suddenly it just goes into sort of a robot-thon of two people standing there trying to make their case. |
| 2:10.2 | Juliettingham, absolutely brilliant, fantastic moderator. |
| 2:13.7 | And I would say the best thing about the debate is it was mercifully short. |
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