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For more information, visit Sv old times are back. Yeah. world is throwing us quite a lot of apocalyptic 2020 energy right now.

Woohoo! The old times are back. Yeah, and it feels a bit too soon to feel like nostalgic

about that period. But we can make a podcast about Europe without mentioning any letters of the

Greek alphabet. Poor Greek alphabet, by the way, being used like this.

I mean, it's nice that we're all going to grips with it. It's, you know, a nice revival of

ancient culture, I suppose you could say. Except they keep missing out loads of letters in the alphabet,

so it's really not helping my education. Anyway, I think this week more than usual, we could all

do with talking about some other things, don't you?

I do. So what are we actually talking about?

Well, we've got a nice diverting interview for you today.

Katie and I love TV.

You may have noticed.

And as we've discussed before on the show, a lot of us are watching more and more TV and films in foreign languages.

Something that could be said to be bringing us together and helping us share and understand each other's cultures. And the accessibility

of foreign language shows is thanks to a group of wonderful professionals who spend their days

with the pretty challenging job of translating subtitling these shows so that

we can understand what we otherwise wouldn't. And in recent weeks, there have been a few

controversies online around some subpar subtitling of specific shows, which we'll talk about

later. But this week, we decided we wanted to speak to a professional subtitler.

So we'll be calling up Max Deriagin, a Russian subtitler and chair of Suttall, the subtitlers

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