Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest to returning guest. His name is Albert Lanier. We talked last month about the strange death of Bobby Fuller in Hollywood. And he is all, he's a journalist. He's done a lot of research. And he's covered in the past, a story that I'm interested in.

It's a story, really a pre-internet story, kind of, people have called it the octopus.

There's been a couple of books about this whole story that involves software and the strange death of a guy by the name of Danny Casillero, who was founded

in a hotel room in 1991. And it does tie in. There's all kinds of, you know, deep state

would be called deep state type figures, Robert Maxwell, John Tower, and it's just the U.S. Department

of Justice, and ties in vaguely with a lot of people involved in Iran-Contra, which is how

it got the name the octopus, but Albert can talk more about that.

So, Albert, welcome back to the show.

It's nice to be back.

For people who may not have heard of our earlier interview,

can you kind of talk about your background and then how you became interested in the whole story of Inslaw and Promise?

Oh, sure.

Well, I was first on this program to discuss the death of rock star Bobby Fuller.

And we had a discussion about that, examination of that.

And some of the lingering questions, because it was a rather odd death.

For one reason, you know, Fuller was found in his mother's car,

having taken his mother's car previously,

the night before.

And the car was driven back with him in it,

with his,

basically with his dead body in it.

And his body was doused in gasoline. And there wasn't really a proper death investigation,

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