This is an I-Heart podcast.

And we continue with our American stories.

Randall Wallace is the writer and or director of films such as Braveheart. We were soldiers,

the man in the Iron Mask, Heaven is for real, Pearl Harbor, and Secretariat. Here he is to share

the story of Penny Chenery, owner of the 1973 Triple Crown winner, and we're of course

talking about that thoroughbred,

that aforementioned thoroughbred, Secretariat. Let's take a listen.

Penny Chenery was the owner of Secretariat, and I have made a number of films that I've had the incredible blessing

of getting to know the actual human beings that live the story.

And Penny Chinnery and Secretariat are great examples.

Also the family that Heaven is for

real is about the Burpo family.

I've gotten to know them as well.

Penny Chinnery was a remarkable woman.

Now what drew the studio and others to the tale of Secretariat was obviously the achievements of the horse,

but you can't scratch the surface of that story without coming full face into penny chenery.

She was a mother of five and basically a housewife whose father had loved horses.

They owned a horse breeding farm in Virginia, and it wasn't the kind of Lexington, Kentucky,

gorgeous, picturesque, almost Norman Rockwell kind of horse farm. It was a hard scrabble place that they

had. But as her father began to sink into dementia and Penny's children were growing and she was

finding that place that many of us come to when we think, okay, being a parent has demanded all of my attention,

but what am I going to do after that? And how am I going to demonstrate for my children the kind of

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