The Story of America: What the Constitution Actually Said About Slavery [Ep. 11]
Our American Stories
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4.6 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of Our American Stories, The United States Constitution is the oldest written constitution still in force, yet one question about the document continues to shape debates about American history: Did the Constitution support slavery, or did it leave room for the institution to be challenged and eventually abolished?
For our ongoing Story of Us—Story of America series, Bill McClay, author of Land of Hope, examines how the framers dealt with slavery during the Constitutional Convention of 1787 and what the text of the Constitution actually says about our original sin.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.3 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:14.3 | And we return to our American stories. |
| 0:17.9 | Up next, another installment of our series about us, The Story of America |
| 0:23.2 | Series, with Hillsdale College Professor and author of the fantastic book, Land of Hope, Dr. Bill |
| 0:29.6 | McClay. When the framers finished their masterpiece, the Constitution, they knew the impact |
| 0:35.1 | it would have upon the world. Many thought it would decide the fate of Republican government for all of eternity. |
| 0:42.4 | But that document wasn't without controversy. |
| 0:45.2 | Let's get into the story. |
| 0:47.0 | Here's Bill McLeigh. |
| 0:51.1 | So the Constitution, the handiwork of this secretive convention gathered in Philadelphia |
| 0:58.3 | in the summer, a hot muggy summer of 1787, was finally completed and signed on September 17, 1787. |
| 1:09.6 | It's worth stepping back to contemplate what an achievement this was. Without getting into the details of the Constitution, just make one point. We've lived ever since then under the same Constitution, the same set of rules and principles that were being debated and discussed all the |
| 1:30.3 | way back in the late 1800s. That's remarkable. We are the oldest Constitution in the world. Oldest |
| 1:39.5 | functioning Constitution in the world. A lot of people think of America as a young country, |
| 1:43.9 | in many ways we are, |
| 1:45.0 | but our Constitution is venerable. It's shown its ability to stand the test of time. It's taken a |
| 1:57.4 | licking and keeps on ticking. It says a lot about us that this is the case. |
| 2:03.7 | To dispense with our Constitution, as occasionally as advocated, |
| 2:08.3 | is something that would be very troubling because it's always been a part of us. |
| 2:14.3 | It's always been a part of the way we have lived together. |
| 2:17.4 | We've altered it. We've amended it, sometimes misunderstood parts of us. It's always been a part of the way we have lived together. We've altered it, |
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