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And we return to our American stories.

Up next, another installment of our series about us,

The Story of America series,

with Hillsdale College Professor and author of the terrific book, Land of Hope, Bill McLeigh.

There's also a wonderful young reader's edition of Land of Hope. If you know or have kids in your life, by all means, pick up this book at Amazon or the usual suspects.

You won't regret it.

When the framers drafted the Constitution, they did so with many goals in mind.

But one we might not think about is the goal of managing conflict.

In fact, it could be said that the Constitution was designed for conflict.

Let's get into the story.

Here's Bill McLeod.

One of the biggest issues that needed to be resolved was the question of representation.

How were the different entities that made up the United States to be represented?

How were the people to be represented in the Congress?

There was a conflict right off the bat.

Madison introduced a plan for representation by population.

The more populated a state was, the more representatives it would have in the Congress.

And this was rightly and understandably objected to by the small states, which had less population, but they were states also.

And they felt representation should be by state, not by population.

So you have these two very different views,

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