The Story: How Is Tech Driving Deportations?
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🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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404 Media’s Joseph Cox joins Oz to discuss his extensive reporting on the technology ICE is using in the agency’s mass deportation efforts. Joseph sheds light on how widespread ICE’s reach is, from facial recognition to location tracking to information databases. And the shift in how major tech companies are interacting with this current Trump administration.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:18.4 | Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Oz Voloshin here with Kara Price. |
| 0:22.4 | Hi, Oz. |
| 0:23.2 | Hi, Kara. So we've talked on the show a fair bit about facial recognition technology |
| 0:27.1 | and the ubiquity of data scraping by private companies. |
| 0:32.1 | It does sometimes feel a bit like we are living in a kind of science fiction movie |
| 0:37.0 | about a population of people who are being |
| 0:39.7 | technologically surveilled all the time. |
| 0:41.7 | I think the movie is called Minority Report and we live in it right now. |
| 0:45.5 | And over the past few months, it's become impossible to ignore how government agencies are partnering |
| 0:50.5 | with private companies to help in the efforts to do mass deportations. |
| 0:56.2 | Yeah, it's very disconcerting to read about how government agencies are using facial recognition technology to detain deportees. |
| 1:06.5 | Yeah, and it's not just facial recognition. |
| 1:08.0 | We'll get into all the different technologies that are being used today |
| 1:11.0 | with our friend Joseph Cox from 404 Media. The amount of data that immigration and customs |
| 1:17.6 | enforcement can scrape and utilize is pretty mind-blowing. And on the other side of it, |
| 1:23.5 | people have developed products to help track ice activity, but those products on apps have been removed from the Apple App Store |
| 1:30.7 | and also, I think, from the Android app stores, |
| 1:33.2 | which limits how much people are able to use these tools. |
| 1:36.2 | You know, how private tech companies are responding to ICE |
| 1:39.5 | does put a spotlight on the relationship between Silicon Valley |
| 1:43.4 | and this presidential administration. |
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