Hi and welcome to undisclosed. My name is Robbie Achaudri. I'm an attorney and author, and I'm here with my colleague Colin Miller.

Hi, this is Colin Miller. I am a professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law, and I blog at Evidence Prof blog.

When Undisclosed first launched in 2015, the plan that Susan, Colin, and I had was to do a

deep investigative look at the facts of Heyman Lee's murder and Adnan's conviction with no plans

to move on to other cases. None of the three of us had ever done any innocence work before,

and while I had been helping Adnan and his family navigate the appeal system, collecting documents, and trying to raise money for his defense since 1999,

I really had no idea how to attack a wrongful conviction. My career had been in federal

immigration, civil rights, and national security, the areas in which all the expected fallout

from 9-11 were felt.

That first season with Susan and Colin was a steep learning curve from me.

I learned how to read a police file, how to understand a criminal trial transcript,

and how to reinvestigate a case.

Susan taught me to be skeptical of every document I read because the police don't always faithfully note down what witnesses say.

Colin taught me what issues, like Brady, can get a defendant a new trial. And the most important

thing I learned was to put aside the prosecutor's narrative and try to piece together what

actually happened in any given crime in a wrongful conviction. For that, I learned to create timelines. Timelines to track

the movements of the victim, of your defendant, and of the prime suspects. It's not an easy

task decades after the fact, and when the original investigators dropped the ball on purpose or

because of sheer incompetence, the list is long and hardy in this case, of all the times the investigators dropped the ball

or purposefully avoided collecting evidence they thought would hurt their case.

You can clearly see this incompetence when you examine how poorly they investigated the suspects they should have.

Alonzo Sellers, who found Hay's body, the only state's witness, Jay Wilde, who not only changed his story a dozen times, but demonstrated over and over again that his narrative was impossibly wrong.

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