The State of the Justice Department's Independence
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 675 Ratings
🗓️ 16 January 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is Brian Lair's Daily Politics Podcasts from WNYC Studios. |
| 0:09.9 | It's Friday, January 16th. |
| 0:14.4 | It's the Brian Lair Show on WNYC. |
| 0:17.4 | I'm Bridget Bergen, senior reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom filling in for Brian today. |
| 0:23.2 | He's out because he's taking care of a family member who's dealing with some health issues. |
| 0:27.2 | As we were thinking about some of the this week's top news stories, we noticed a pretty striking theme running through a lot of them. |
| 0:35.2 | Whether it was Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell's announcement |
| 0:38.5 | that he was under criminal investigation, or the decision by six career prosecutors in Minneapolis |
| 0:44.8 | to resign their posts over a push to investigate the widow of Renee Macklin Good, the woman |
| 0:51.2 | who was shot and killed by immigration and customs enforcement officer last week. |
| 0:56.4 | And even the norm-breaking search of a Washington Post reporter's home on Wednesday in connection |
| 1:01.9 | with an investigation related to a government contractor, in theory. These stories are just the tip |
| 1:08.2 | of the iceberg, of course, and the constant in all of them is the Justice Department, a powerful agency with broad authority that in previous administrations operated with a fierce independence. |
| 1:20.7 | So when we decided we would take a look at the state of the Justice Department after a full year of the second Trump presidency. |
| 1:28.4 | We couldn't think of anyone better than my next guest to help us dig into this week's news |
| 1:32.8 | and to help us understand how we got here. Emily Bazelon is a staff writer at the New York Times |
| 1:39.3 | magazine. She also contributes to the Times editorials on legal affairs. |
| 1:53.5 | She teaches at Yale Law School where she is the Truman Capote Fellow for Creative Writing and Law and co-host of Slate's weekly podcast political gab fest. |
| 1:56.5 | Emily, welcome back to the show. It's always great to speak with you. |
| 1:58.2 | For having me. |
| 2:02.7 | Emily, I ticked off some of this week's stories, and we're going to dig into those in a moment. |
| 2:10.4 | But as someone who has been studying the evolution of the Justice Department, how are you viewing some of what we're seeing today? |
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