Every week Hillsdale College President Larry PR joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

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Morning glory America, those who are high-cannot of that music means it is the Hillsdale Dialog.

The last radio hour of the week, almost every week, sometimes we do it in the second,

the last hour of the week like last week, but last week we wrapped up with great contemporaries

with my guest, Dr. Larry Arn, president of Hillsdale College, all things Hillsdale are collected

at hillsdale.edu, and we have been spending a year with Winston Churchill's writings,

and last week we wrapped up on great contemporaries, and next week we're going to this book,

Winston Churchill's The World Crisis Volume One, and we'll do something called a close read.

We've never done that before, so I encourage you to go, this edition is a magnificent

paper edition, and it's from Bloomsbury.com. I love this book so much, and it's been such a reveal

to me that I'm really, I'd rather just skip this week, but I can't. Good morning, Dr. Arn, how are you?

I'm good. How are you doing? I am great. I am great. Did you have a good commencement at Hillsdale?

It was awesome. I have to be very careful what I say, but about two and five commencement speeches

are really great, because they're kind of hard to give if you don't know a lot about college.

But this one, Bishop Robert Barron, who's a famous Catholic bishop, has got, you know,

400 million people talking to him a week or something. He's very smart, and he understood how to do it,

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