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🗓️ 15 October 2024
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Why did Fuchs take such a huge gamble by sharing US nuclear secrets with the Soviets? Was Oppenheimer's fellow physicist seeking peace - or war? Charlie Higson talks to Frank Close, an author and physicist, about Fuchs' decision and its impact on the course of history.
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0:00.0 | Wonderry plus subscribers can binge full seasons of the Spy Who early and add free on Apple |
0:06.9 | podcasts or the Wondery app. |
0:13.0 | From Wondery, I'm Charlie Higson, and this is The Spy Who. |
0:24.2 | Now, as you may know, I am a novelist, actor, comedian, and overall spy enthusiast. |
0:30.5 | Although I have to say that my involvement with the world of spying is more on the fantasy level of James Bond |
0:36.6 | than the more serious, real world of espion is more on the fantasy level of James Bond than the more serious, |
0:38.0 | real world of espionage that this podcast explores. And a very serious episode today as we take |
0:45.2 | one last dive into the brilliant complex, but at times rather odd mind, of Klaus Fuchs. |
0:53.5 | Now, thanks to the film Oppenheimer, this key moment in history, the development of the |
0:59.0 | atomic bomb, has been brought back into the spotlight, giving us all a chance to remember |
1:03.9 | the great minds whose influence was as impactful in science as it was in politics. |
1:10.6 | Now, prior to this series, I didn't really know anything about food. |
1:15.1 | It's been fascinating to find out more about him. |
1:18.2 | And I'm really looking forward to speaking to our guest today, Frank Close, |
1:22.4 | author of Trinity, the treachery and pursuit of the most dangerous spy in history. |
1:28.3 | Now that's quite a claim. |
1:30.3 | But thankfully, Frank is here to explain why he believed Fuchs to be so dangerous, |
1:35.3 | and together we're going to peel back the layers of the extraordinary life of a man |
1:39.3 | whose brilliance illuminated the atomic age, |
1:42.3 | but whose choices made him notorious. |
1:50.3 | Well, thank you so much for joining us, Frank. It's a pleasure to be in the company of a man |
1:54.5 | of so many talents, author, celebrated scientist, OBE, and lecturer. I can only imagine the many things that intrigue you |
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