Until about a year and a half ago, we did not talk about masks.

We obviously knew that other countries were using this.

When you are wearing some of these outfits for the first time. It's a little nervousness.

Hi, I'm Ian Bremmer, and welcome to the G-Zero World Podcast.

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This week I sit down with former chief of disguise, the CIA,

Jonah Mendez. John has got plenty of stories to tell about her decades of service undercover.

Like the time she briefed President George H.W. Bush in the Oval Office, while in disguise,

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And I'm with John A Mendes, author of the Moscow Rules and the former head of disguise,

chief of disguise, the central intelligence agency.

I did not know that we had a chief of disguise. Do we still have a chief of disguise?

I believe we do.

You believe we do?

Playing the same kind of role that you did when you were there?

I would imagine that it's changed somewhat.

Everything has changed.

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