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I was a bit of a selling us about his own idea of kidnapping American soldiers and be heading them on camera.

And he said that helped a lot in putting the fear in the hearts of the enemies both in Chechnya and during the Bosnian war with the Serbs.

So I remember telling him like this is disgusting. I mean look at us now. We're treating you well. We saved your life.

So if you catch us will you be had us? And basically he said no absolutely. I will be had you.

From foreign policy welcome back to I spy. On each episode we get one former intelligence operative to tell the story of one operation. I'm Margot Martin Dale.

Ali Sufon served as a special agent for the FBI where he specialized in all kind of investigations both before and after the attacks of September 11.

In 2002 Sufon was sent to question a high level Jehadi captured in Pakistan Abu Zubeida. But after several rounds of interrogation at the secret site he was sidelined by a CIA contractor who had helped develop a new torture program for the agency.

Sufon's account takes place in that country he is still not allowed to name. Here is his story.

I think it was March 29th of 2002. I was in New York. I've been on the road overseas nonstop almost since 9.11 and I got a phone call from the FBI saying that we need you to go on a mission.

At the time I finally had a couple of days off and I was planning to go with my fiance at the time to spend some time with our family in Pennsylvania.

I wasn't happy but they said we arrested Abu Zubeida and we need you to go and interrogate him.

I knew Abu Zubeida very well. I actually had a source in Afghanistan, one of the very few sources before 9.11 reporting on him.

Abu Zubeida was involved in the planning of a serious of attacks in Jordan to include bombing hotels in Amman, the capital of Jordan and attack the border crossing with Israel.

Abu Zubeida was not a member of Al Qaeda however he is very closely associated with the Somal Bin Laden and Al Qaeda network.

For the Jordan plots I was in charge of that investigation. That's the reason the FBI and the CIA wanted me to go and be part of the interrogation team of the very first high value target that has been arrested after 9.11.

So I went down to DC and then we went on a CIA chartered plane and that's basically the team that's one day at the time.

So I was the way that was captured in Al Qaeda safe house in Pakistan.

It was a joint operation between the US and the Pakistanis. He was injured during the arrest and taken to a hospital in Pakistan where he went under surgery to remove a bullet from his upper thigh.

And then after that he was taken to a third country for interrogation where we met him over there.

We go there and we start cleaning a little bit the location trying to make it you know ready for the one of Abu Zubeida comes.

So the very first thing when he came I went in and I asked him what's your name and he looked at me and he said that would the wood meaning David and Arabic.

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