Hello.

If you are into conversations that are habitually disruptive, welcome to the Confessions of a

Crapie Christian, the Speakeasy edition.

Hey, Amy, welcome to the show.

Thank you.

I'm really excited to be here.

You are an author, you're a coach, you're a speaker, and we are going to talk about something

that's a little bit, like it can be a little controversial, it can be a little bit touchy.

But I first of all, I think this conversation needs to be had because I think a lot of people

are confused.

I think controversy tends to lend itself to like some confusion and some like muddled information.

And so we wanted to just kind of like lay it out for people.

We're going to talk about the Enneagram.

And we're going to talk about should Christians use the Enneagram.

But before we get into that, give us a little bit of like your backstory, your experience

with the Enneagram, how you started coaching and everything.

Yeah, well, I actually grew up in a pastor's home, sadly, some pain and dysfunction, not

many of us without that.

But and then I went into the ministry myself.

And for years, did discipleship and ministry work, got married, had kids continue kind

of doing the same thing in a different capacity.

And I was doing a lot of discipleship, especially with young moms, even though I was in that

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