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Welcome to the Advisory Opinions Podcast. This is David French with Sarah Izger.

And we're going to be talking an awful lot about police reform today.

But we're not going to talk only about police reform. We're also going to talk about one of the more underappreciated and

one of our underappreciated constitutional doctrines that has changed our lives perhaps

almost more than, I don't know, it's hard to think of a constitutional doctrine that's been more

immediately relevant to American people's lives. It's interesting. It's called incorporation.

And then we're going to talk about the Netflix series Waco that Sarah and I have both watched

and Sarah has bokeh thoughts. But before we dive into that, I'd like to please remind you to subscribe to this podcast.

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Sarah, you spent some time over the weekend writing about, and it was published in the morning

to dispatch this morning, this slogan that we're hearing a ton about over the weekend,

called Defund the Police. And like many slogans that you hear online or chanted in the streets,

it isn't necessarily self-explanatory as to what it actually means.

So Sarah, walk us through what does Defund the police mean? Does it have many meanings?

Is it obvious from the front end to zero budgets? What is it?

So this like perked up my ears because when I was at the Department of Justice,

I actually did dive into some of the more academic, well-researched literature on abolishing prisons.

Because there are smart people out there who have really unusual ideas on some of this.

And I think it's worth diving in when they make a serious argument to see what their argument is

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