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So today we're talking about a phenomenon.

Phenomenomenon, which is basically something that I've saw on Twitter, like just before Christmas and then I feel like it's just always around a bit.

But it's definitely a conversation that's gaining traction at the moment, which is

about sad

girls in particular, sad girl writers, and whether or not they're dehumanizing men and

shooting themselves in the foot by portraying men in a very monolithic way. Monolithic, yeah.

Is that the right way to say? Definitely, yeah, yeah. So I was thinking of this when I was lying in bed, not able to sleep the other night, putting it all the pieces together because, yeah, it's definitely been like a rise of this type of writing, this type of discourse, like that TikTok. Eden sent me a TikTok the other day where, oh, sorry, it was Gina. Actually, no, and then you were like, oh, have you seen it Eden? Where it was like that woman crying eyes out because she was like, oh, Jesus fuck. My boyfriend did something, something, something. I don't even know what it was. And then someone duetted it like, Yeah like yeah fair enough but why putting this on the internet

yeah her boyfriend had like a uh uh uh google drive or something with loads of porn saved in it

and then this one was basically saying he was cheating on her um and but the only video she posted

she wasn't speaking in the video she was just crying but like but like, it was like a guttural, animalistic cry where she's like, ah!

Like, some guy was like, yeah.

She's a jump scare there, you don't.

Sorry.

Like, your feelings are valid, but we don't need to know everything about each other.

Yeah.

But, yeah, so that's what's inspired us.

That is what...

Sorry to that woman.

Her feelings are valid.

But, yeah, we don't need to share everything.

Or do we?

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