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ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

The Simple Path Revisited in 2025 With JL Collins

ChooseFI | Financial Independence Podcast

Jonathan Mendonsa & Brad Barrett | Choose FI Media, Inc

Investing, Careers, Business

4.8 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Most personal finance books promise you'll need decades of complex strategies to build wealth. JL Collins made millions by saying the opposite. Brad Barrett sits down with the author whose Simple Path to Wealth has sold over a million copies and become the blueprint for an entire movement. Collins reveals why his strategy—avoid debt, live below your means, invest in low-cost index funds—has remained unchanged even as his 2025 revised edition adds new data, case studies, and a surprising take on cryptocurrency. Collins challenges the conventional wisdom that you need to start investing young to see results from compounding. Market downturns aren't disasters—they're opportunities to buy shares at bargain prices. The key isn't timing or complexity; it's consistent action over decades. [00:00:00] Introduction Overview of the episode and JL Collins' influence in the financial independence community. [00:00:19] The Release of the Revised Book The 2025 edition of The Simple Path to Wealth releases May 20th with updated data and new content while preserving its core philosophy. [00:05:22] Understanding the Simple Path to Wealth Collins shares how the book began as personal guidance for his daughter and evolved into a resource that has changed millions of lives. [00:07:39] The Importance of Compounding Compounding wealth doesn't require starting young—even late starters who commit to the principles will be significantly better off than those who don't. [00:20:15] Investing in Index Funds The benefits of broad-based low-cost index funds like VTSAX: diversification across the entire U.S. stock market with minimal fees. [00:27:15] Market Trends and Self-Cleansing Funds How stock indices naturally adapt as companies rise and fall, automatically keeping your portfolio current without active management. [01:07:01] Closing Remarks Encouragement to begin the journey toward financial independence. Key Takeaways: Financial freedom requires three deliberate actions: avoid debt, live on less than you earn, and invest the surplus consistently Compounding grows wealth exponentially—it starts slow but accelerates dramatically over time Market crashes are buying opportunities, not selling triggers Low-cost index funds provide instant diversification across thousands of companies without the need to pick individual stocks The holding period for VTSAX is "forever"—long-term commitment is essential Notable Quotes: "If you reach for a star, you might not get one, but you won't come up with a handful of mud either." [00:09:31] "Freedom is the ultimate wealth money can buy." [00:03:43] "A stock market crash is a gift." [00:35:31] "My holding period for VTSAX is forever." [00:30:39] Key Concepts: VTSAX [00:20:49] Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund—a single fund that owns shares in virtually every publicly traded U.S. company. Compounding [00:16:15] The process where investment earnings generate their own earnings over time, creating exponential rather than linear growth. Self-Cleansing Funds [00:27:15] Index funds automatically replace failing companies with rising ones, maintaining exposure to market winners without active management. Action Steps: Set up automatic contributions to a low-cost index fund Calculate your current savings rate and identify areas to reduce spending View your next market downturn as a chance to buy shares at a discount Commit to a decades-long investment timeline Episode Mentions: Episode 001: "Intro to Financial Independence" [00:57:03]

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Chusify. Today in the show, we have an absolute treat. We have the legend J.L. Collins here on the show. And he's going to talk all things Simple Path to Wealth. And what's really exciting is his book, The Simple Path to Wealth, is actually coming out a new version of it, the revised and expanded 2025 edition. From the day we release this,

0:22.2

it's coming out tomorrow. So it's coming on May 20th, 2025. And this book has sold and reached

0:28.9

over a million people. It's sold a million copies, has reached undoubtedly millions. And it is

0:35.5

simply put, the most important book in the FI community. It has changed

0:40.3

millions of people's lives, myself most certainly included. It has helped me sleep at night to a

0:45.2

degree that I can't even describe. And I'm proud and honored to call J.L. a friend. And I'm just so

0:53.1

happy every time he comes on this podcast because

0:55.5

it simply helps people. And this episode is no different. You're really going to enjoy this one.

1:01.1

With that, welcome to choose up by.

1:10.4

J.L., my friend, it is always so good to have you here. Thanks for coming back.

1:14.7

That's always a pleasure to chat with you, Brad. Thanks for having me back.

1:18.8

Yeah. So this is super exciting. You have revised and updated, really, those single most important book in the Phi community, which is the simple path to wealth,

1:28.7

you know I've said this to you before, on any Mount Rushmore of Phi, you are squarely, squarely

1:35.3

in that pantheon. And your book has changed lives all across the world. I know on the, on the new

1:41.7

version, it says over a million copies sold, which is just mind-blowingly extraordinary.

1:47.3

I think probably one in a million or one in 10 million books sell a million copies.

1:51.6

I can't even fathom.

1:52.5

I'm just making that up, of course.

1:53.8

But that is such an extraordinary thing.

1:56.9

And it's a testament to what you've done for our community and what you've done for the world.

2:01.8

So just a heartfelt thank you.

2:04.0

Well, I appreciate that and all those really kind words.

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