We're going to take a closer look now at the significance of Republican vice presidential candidate

JD Vance's weekend appearance at a town hall event organized by top Christian nationalist leaders.

The events host, Lance Walnow, is a leading figure in what's called the New Apostolic

Reformation. That's a far-right Christian nationalist movement that wants to erase the separation

between church and state and increasingly intersects with the Trump campaign.

We're joined now by Matthew Taylor, senior scholar at the Educational Nonprofit Institute for

Islamic Christian and Jewish Studies.

His book out tomorrow is titled The Violent Take It by Force,

the Christian movement that is threatening our democracy.

Thanks for being here.

Thank you for having me, Jeff.

So who is Lance Wal-Now, and how does his brand of Christian nationalism differ from the white

evangelical Christianity that's been the power base of the GOP for decades?

Lance Walnow is a Christian nationalist leader.

I would even go so far as to call him a Christian supremacist leader,

kind of a hard line form of Christian nationalism.

He's a Pentecostal Charismatic minister. He has various titles that attach to him.

He sometimes will call himself an apostle, sometimes a prophet, sometimes an evangelist.

He's a business consultant.

He came up in this movement called the New Apostolic

Reformation, which is really the focus of my book. And the New Apostolic

Reformation was a set of leadership networks. They were established by Walenau's

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