The Sex Industry with Sarah Jones
Wrong Turns with Jameela Jamil
Jameela Jamil
4.7 • 3.8K Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2022
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Playwright, actor, poet, and filmmaker Sarah Jones joins Jameela this week to discuss her new film Sell/Buy/Date, which explores the many complicated layers within the sex industry. They discuss how the sex industry manifests the racism and inequalities of culture at large, the difference between legalization and decriminalization, who truly benefits within it, the ways the industry can be either empowering or dehumanizing, and more.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of IWave with Jermina Jamell, a podcast against shame. |
| 0:04.7 | I hope you're well, and I hope you're ready for this slightly inflammatory topic |
| 0:10.2 | that we're going to discuss on this podcast today. |
| 0:14.2 | We are talking about the sex industry and my guest is Sarah Jones, who is a fabulous actress and writer and director |
| 0:20.0 | and documentary maker, just a fucking phenomenal talent and also someone who's got the biggest heart |
| 0:27.0 | and the best intentions, maybe in the whole of Hollywood. I really love her and I'm really glad |
| 0:31.2 | she was able to come to me today to talk about her new documentary, Cell by Date. |
| 0:37.6 | And that's BUY. Now, there are many reasons why this documentary that she's made has |
| 0:45.2 | carp as incredibly controversial. First and foremost, maybe, is the fact that she is not a member |
| 0:51.6 | of the sex industry as a not someone who does sex work and therefore is it her place to make a |
| 0:57.6 | documentary and star in a documentary about that subject. And second of all, this subject seems |
| 1:03.8 | to be one of the most divisive ones in the whole of feminism, not just social justice, but feminism, |
| 1:08.3 | and people land on very extreme sides of this conversation to the point where sometimes are emotions |
| 1:14.7 | and protectiveness and defensiveness stop us from actually getting to the nuance of what should |
| 1:19.6 | be an incredibly nuanced conversation, which the sex industry has comprised of people who volunteer |
| 1:25.1 | and choose to be in it and people who don't. And we have to create space to let both people have |
| 1:30.0 | their say and have their rights and their dignity intact. The other reason this subject is so controversial |
| 1:38.5 | is because a lot of people don't even want to talk about the sex industry. It's so weird and Sarah |
| 1:43.1 | really goes into how the sex industry kind of bleeds into every single, almost part of our culture, |
| 1:48.7 | music videos, entertainment, really almost any kind of mediary facet of our existence. |
| 1:58.0 | And yet when it comes to the actual sex industry itself, the concentrated sex industry, |
| 2:04.3 | we shun the conversation, we look away, we dehumanise the people who participate in it, |
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