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28-2-23

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement

of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America

and around the world. Hello and welcome to today's episode of the podcast,

lots been going on in Ukraine recently. We thought we should talk about it a little bit more

and to do that, we've gone back to two of our very favorite guests. General Mark Hurtling,

General Hurtling is the former commanding general of the United States Army,

Europe and the seventh Army. How are you doing, Mark? I'm doing great, David. It's great to be with you

again, especially with Michael, too. Well, you know, Michael's special guy, Michael's uh,

Michael Weiss, senior correspondent for Yahoo News, and the host of the foreign office podcast,

how are you doing, Michael? I'm well. Thanks for having me back. Great. Well, I, you know,

I just thought we would have a good, unvarnished conversation about some of the items that have

appeared in the news. This week, Mark, I saw you on CNN providing a take on what, for example,

this news about tanks meant, and a minute I'd like to go to Michael and talk about some of what

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