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It's Been a Minute

The secret to Heated Rivarly's success

It's Been a Minute

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4.68.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Heated Rivalry - the hit HBO Max series - has it all: scintillating romance, hot guys, sports (kind of), and, most importantly, portrayals of gay love and sex that don’t hold back.

Steamy, sensual TV shows aren’t new, but the Canadian series has captured the public's attention in a way that a show hasn’t in a while. So, what’s behind its cultural resonance? What does it mean that this gay romance was written by a woman? And why are straight women and gay men equally into the sex scenes?

Michel Ghanem, TV critic and columnist of “Appointment Viewing” for The Cut, and Glen Weldon, co-host of NPR’s Pop Culture Happy Hour, join the show to get into why we’re all waiting for every new episode with bated breath.

(0:00) What is Heated Rivalry really about?
(2:40) How successful is the gay TV show?
(6:05) Why are straight women into gay romance?
(9:25) Why all audiences see something new in the sex scenes
(12:12) Can straight actors play queer characters?
(18:30) "Wait, What?!" A Pop Culture Trivia Game

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0:00.0

Okay, really quickly, how would you describe heated rivalry in one word?

0:06.0

Hot.

0:06.8

Glenn says hot.

0:08.0

Intimate?

0:09.1

Intimate. Oh my gosh.

0:12.6

I think I'm going to say romantic.

0:14.5

There we go.

0:15.5

It may be cold outside, but HBO Max's latest streaming darling heated rivalry is burning up our screens.

0:22.5

But what is it about this gay hockey romance that has people, including me, waiting with bated breath for the next episode?

0:30.2

There is a simple answer to why it's huge and a much more complicated one.

0:33.6

Let's start with a simple one. It's hot. People like things that are hot. Let's not overthink it.

0:37.1

There's a lot going on. They're not beating around the bush. Then again,

0:40.3

we're here to overthink it. So let's get into it. A warning to listeners, this segment includes

0:45.4

frank discussion of sex.

0:50.8

Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

1:05.0

All right, we are going to get into the heated rivalry of it all, but first, I want to talk about

1:12.1

public media. This show, NPR, and the whole public media system were made for you. From its

1:20.9

founding in the U.S., public media was created to bring you stories from underrepresented communities

1:26.6

and provide cultural insights that

1:28.7

expand your perspective. We still believe in these core commitments of public media at NPR,

1:34.7

but public media is now navigating a new chapter without federal funding.

1:40.3

As we move into this new reality together, we know that you won't let the service that has been

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