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Father Frank Pavone will be with us a little later in the program.

I'm Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton.

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David and Tim, Father Frank, back with us.

It's been a while since we had him on, but of course, worked with Father Frank.

Wow, I think the first time I met him was at one of those pastor's briefings probably it might have been 20 years ago guys

maybe at least 15 anyway it was a long time ago so you y'all well david you've known uh frank

for many many years and then tim and i of course so much younger okay maybe tim's so much younger

i'm not that much younger but anyways uh father frank, Father Frank is a great guy. He headed priests for

life. I actually kind of started it and got it going. Really caused it to grow into something

significant because there were a number of priests, number of Catholics in America that were not pro

life, as we've seen with Biden and Pelosi and others. And so he was really trying to move that church

back toward Christian beliefs and teachings in the American side and did a really good

job and so so much so that this last Pope who's much more liberal than recent

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